De La Hoya vs. Mayweather ... Finally!
Financial terms were not disclosed but this is, by far, the biggest money fight to be made in boxing today and has a shot to set the all-time pay-per-view record for a non-heavyweight bout (currently held by De la Hoya's 1999 welterweight unification fight with Felix Trinidad which generated 1.4 million buys). It's also the rare match - given boxing's current second-class status among the major sports - that has the potential to transcend boxing and capture the attention and interest of the broader public.
What more could you ask for? The best pound-for-pound fighter in the world (Mayweather) against the most popular boxer in the world (De La Hoya). On top of that, De La Hoya is trained by Floyd Mayweather Sr., the estranged father of Floyd Jr.. It's unlikely that Floyd Sr. will be in Oscar's corner on fight night to give instruction on how to beat up his son, but imagine if he is . . .
The fight is a no brainer for Mayweather who will be favored and earn the largest payday of his career - by a huge margin. Credit must go to De La Hoya for continuing to take on the best (as he did when he agreed to fight Bernard Hopkins) when he could opt instead to pad his already fat wallet with much safer opponents.
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well let me be the 1st to say…..YESSSSSS!!!! this is gonna be up for grabs cause it can go either way and a lot is at stake for this…de-la-hoya going down as the first man to beat floyd…restoring his credibilty….makin mo money mo money mo money…..floyd his pride….beating his estranged fathers fighter…securing a place in the halls of boxings greatest matches…and did i say mo money mo money mo money….can you say KA-CHING………and me i’m going to pluck down $50 dollars or so to watch this……i gotta buy a 60′inch screen just fo this…….well my prediction a split decision too THE NEW CHAMPION PRETTY BOY FLOYD MAYWEATHER…(this is the part where the credits role to this script)…..floyd is just to slick…and has suprising power…and great defensive skills…plus he can maintain a high work rate…….now oscar..has that power and is a great boxer….but as shane mosely,ike quartey(i felt he won too) and felix shown(i felt he lost) oscar is not a high rate fighter except at the end of rounds…….now floyd can box just as well and maybe better than oscar……the jab is going to be the key..body work is going to be the doorknob…and high work rate the opening………….then i’d like for him to fight SUGAR SHANE…..
most people dont know what there talking about. First of all oscar is a more experienced boxer than floyed…. when floyed went up aginist baldamir wat did he do?…run around the ring, he will not be able to do that when oscar comes in the ring. Oscars left hook is so incredible, and his speed just out speeds flyed punching ability… to me oscer got this fight won, no doubt about it… floyed is just to cocky, thats why floyed sr. would like to see him lose by the fighter his training “Oscer De La Hoya” its gonna be a good fight, and i know oscer isent as good as he used to be 15 years ago, but now he’s back!….. The only thing i hope is that floyed mayweathrer sr. doesnt interfear with there fight may 5th.
Finally a great fight ,cant hardly wait ,a toss up if Oscar can pressure mayweather and cut the ring off with his left hook he has a legitimate chance at winning this on the other hand if Floyd mayweather can stay away and just box he can probably win a decision,conditioning will play a big factor on both sides .GO DELAHOYA!!!!!!!
This is a foregone conclusion. I’m a huge DLH fan, and I respect him tremendously for everything he stands for and has accomplished in his career, but he is NOT going to beat PBF. Oscar is much to stiff and mechanical when he fights top opposition. Too nervous and tight. Sure, he looked fabulous against Mayorga, but prior to that, he was easily defeated by BHops and looked terrible against Felix Sturm–who really was just a tune up for him. Floyd may have a big mouth, but the man always comes to the ring in shape and seems to get better and smarter with every fight. Bottom line is that he is just too fast for Oscar. He’ll pick his punches and get out of the way. Simple as that. He’ll make it look easy. UD for Floyd.
My condolences to all Dela Hoya fans. Fortunate for me Floyd will not only win this fight but he will punish Dela Hoya. Think Aurturo Gotti. Even though I think Floyd still would have beat Dela Hoya in his prime he now is not the fighter he used to be and it showed against Mayorga even though it was a beautiful fight. Mayweather is in a league of his own and just way too quick and too good. His defense is the best out there today. We are witnessing greatness in Floyd Mayweather who may go down in history with one of the best legacies in boxing. Some of the fights I hear people saying he is ducking is a complete insult to Mayweather such as Margarito, Hatten please!!!!!!!!! The only person I say would have a chance who I still say would lose is Winky.
Oh yeah, Emanuel Stewart I can’t believe a boxing man such as yourself has such a dislike for Mayweather you do not give him his just do. You should be ashamed of yourself. He is that great bra bra. West Oakland own GoldnChild.
hey key from w. oakland, do you remember DLH vs. Mosley 2!!!!!!!!DLH won that fight even though the dumb judges did’nt think so. this will be the same type of matchup,as a matter of fact I think PBF will lose. He will just run around the ring like a little girl and be on his bike the whole fight!!!! You call that a fighter! Icall that a b#!@h! DLH by ud.
DLH has more than a chance he can win this look at who mayweathers beat recently although he looks very impressive consider the opposition which in no way compares to a DLH Gatti,Baldimore,Shamba Mitchell not saying hes guaranteed a win but a lot closer match up than people think
paging mr. martin sanchez… hey i know you believe in de-la hoya…..but to think he’s going to blow out……..floyd???…..i can understand you might not like his swagger…which i do…the kid reminds me of myself…and here’s the point….he backs it up……..point blank….and as for that he ran…i did not see any running..what i saw was floyd giving him angles..i saw baldomir.. getting busted up..i saw baldomir land a high out put of 7 punch out of a round when he had the pretty one against the ropes….ummmmm the key word is BOXING hit and not be hit…what you want for him to do stand toe to toe with a guy that outweighed him by close to what 30 pounds bout time the fight started…listen one of the thing floyd does is train….and he embarrassed baldimore by making him look like an amature…floyd is too smart to take the risk of getting knocked out when it aint worth it…..what was you saying when he stoppped a bigger, taller fighter in corrales….or how he got in gatti’s face and took him apart……floyd defeats you according to our style….the best formula……de la hoys wont be slept on….floyd knows this and he’s gonna do what he does…WIN….is it gonna be tough yes…oscar is no slouch… can oscar ko floyd…yes, if floyd is’nt cautious….can oscar win …yes he can…but there’s a lot a stake for floyd….his drive against his pops….that sort of determination is what brings out that extra 100% to the original 100% he’s already given….so i say put your money on oscar… no one will laugh at you or say i told you so when he loses……well i might…but that’s because i luv’s ya
I just think it is quite funny that everyone is talking about PBF running from Baldomir. It’s called boxing, not brawling or fighting, thats what makes it a sport, and that is what makes one persone better than the other. If that wasn’t the case and you just slug it out of course the bigger person would win. Boxing is about styles. The style wins poing blank. the guy/gal with the comment about angles was absolutely right. Did you guys see the connect percentage for Baldomir. Dont worry it was a lowly 10% or so. That’s absolutely embarrasing. Expect the same for DLH. 12 rounds of PBF beating him to death. They have a saying. Do it like you do it in the GYM and guess what he beats everybody up in the gym, too.
If DLH can throw 30 jabs a round PBF will Not know what to do just like Sugar Shane didn’t in the second fight against DLH. I don’t know what those judjes were smoking that night.
I think PBF is a great fighter and respect him…. But think about it. how many tough fights has he really had? Look at the opposition hes faced. The majority of them were either out of there prime or washed up…. I would love to see PBF fight Paul Williams before this superfight…. But come fight night I’ll be rootin for Delahoya
Oscar De La Hoya is the one that can stop his winning streak.. If he can’t, then i can’t see it happening for awhile.. I say Oscar
I feel this a fight well need in the sport of boxing the heavyweight has been in a sluump since lennow lewis so I feel really great about this bout because it will bring the sport of boxing to the forefront………about this fight I feel an edge to delahoya because of the willingness to win. i think this is the fight that will make mayweather fight and i mean go toe to toe at times. mayweather will do his normal tactics going backwards and scoring on the jab but i feel delahoya has the power and the more accurate punches. and on that note Mayweather hurt his hand fighting a bum so what do you think when he fights Delahoya …..hands down Delahoya by split decision
Floyd Mayweather is going to embarass De La Hoya. Going all the way back to Pernell Whittaker, Oscar De La Hoya has had a problem against world class speed. Mosley beat him twice in his prime and is not nearly as fast, skilled, and elusive as the pound for pound king. De La Hoya may be the most courageous fighter in history to risk what is a good legacy for him, with not much chance of reward. Or is that risk stupid………?
oscar is the best there is out there, he has proven to the world that he still has the power and the heart to fight and win once again. maywheather is a good fighter, but he is not great enough to beat oscar de la hoya. oscar is going to knock him out, he is going to beat him just as much if not more than he did mayorga. after seeing maywheater fight is last fight, and knowing he has to move back up to weight, i’d like maywheather to surprise me, oscar is the always going to be the best, that is why he makes the money he does, hes going to give his fans the fight they want. theres nothing more of oscar to prove after dominating mayorga, oscar is the oscar he was before, the one that finishes out the fighters with his power. yes this fight will be the fight of the year, i can feel it! but i stand by oscar all the way, thats my man, im going t be there in the arena, and im gonna seehim for the first time live, and hes going to knock out him out!
Maywheather didnt look good in his last fight. i see all these comments, if you take a look at the fight again, maywheather shouldnt have won by unanimous decision! Unanimous decision, i mean COME ON, that is just ludicris, i have been watching and studying boxing all my life, i know what fighters need to do to get the points, but come unanimous decision, that right there was BS, i mean he may have won the fight okay i give that to him, he didnt look good he should have won it split decision, but honestly ppl, come one be real, the judges only really gave the fight to him because he’s suppose to fight Oscar! Balodmir did good, he did his best, but maywheather didnt finish the way a pound for pound champion fighter should have, now pacquiao on the other had, he finished morales the way a champ should, de la hoya, he finished vargas, and mayorga the way a champ should. im sorry but for all the ppl who think that maywheather did an excellent job last fight, how long have you been watching boxing? i train, i study it, ive been around boxing all my life, my uncle is a trainer, maywheather should not have won unanimous, and for him to tell larry merchant when is he ever gonna give him credit? WHEN HE DOES AN IMPRESSIVE JOB!!!!
if you all think that de la hoya will win this fight then not one person knows boxing in any way. we are witnessing the greatest fighter of all time and u think hell lose to a fighter who got “knocked out” by a rib shot. Plz people come may 5th mayweather wins easy and clearly because he is the pound for pound king and the best
Floyd punches like a girl. He may have an excellent defense, but he will not beat Oscar with just defense. Oscar will hurt him. Best pound per pound fighter, what a laugh! Oscar would have killed Baldamir. Mayweather hasn’t got a punch. The heavier weight he fights at, the worse he looks. Does anyone seriously think he can hurt Oscar?
remember this 2 words come may 5th LEFT HOOK
floyd is the best pound per pound fighter in the world. oscar is done. When he fights good boxers he lose. Bernard Hopkins, Shane Mosley,and Felix Trinidad all exposed oscar as being bitch fighter that he is. floyd will do the same thing. The speed, power and excellent defense will be to much for Oscar.
Oscar is a b*tch. Look @ the way he fights. He has no heart. He got “knocked out” by a rib shot. Floyd is the best there is. I hope that the ass kickin’ of Oscar will make people give him the respect he deserves. Floyd moving up in weight once again to junior middleweight will put him @ his natural weight. This could give him more power. Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Arturo Gatti, Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir all fell victim to the speed of floyd, so it is crazy as hell to think washed up Oscar will be any different. Winky Wright u say u want the winner … when Floyd wins, please believe Winky will be the next so-called great fighter to get messed up.
Roy Lay…..Why don’t you ask Diego Corrales if Floyd hits like a bitch? Listen, I know De La Hoya is eveyone’s boy, but don’t try to knock the best fighter of this generation. And you can also stop laughing about Floyd being the best pound for pound. Who has a better resume? De La Hoya has lost to Mosley twice, Trinidad and Hopkins. Hopkins had him rolling around on the ground like a baby girl! But he also had contaversial victories in all of his big wins. Whittaker beat him and was robbed. Quartey could have gotten the decision in his fight with Oscar. Felix Sturm beat him up for 12 rounds. I am just glad this fight is going to happen. Finally Oscar will be agianst someone who is better in every category but power. Mayweather will RETIRE De La Hoya. Those faithful De La Hoya fans better watch this fight, because the closest Oscar will come to a ring after this is sitting ringside as a promoter. Dream fight for Floyd. 8 figures for a walk in the park. I would bet my house on it.
Check this out!!!! Yeah Pretty boy is a great boxer, actually like him alot, but….but he can’t beat oscar..I mean come on he’s much more experienced and more powerful. Yeah pretty boy is gonna box..so is oscar. You think oscar hasn’t faced speed before? He’s faced speed and power at the same time..Shane Mosley. So Pretty boy better not run like he did against Baldomir…If he wants Oscar’s belt come and get it..and when he does BAAAM LEFT HOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Once again, DE LA HOYA has proven that he is not a true fighter, sure he beat Ricardo Mayorga (when he was taking drugs that made him weak right before the fight), but why is he going for the weak only………DE LA HOYA claims to be the last fight of his career as a “FIGHTER”. I SAW THE FIGHT JUDAH vs MAYWEATHER and what I saw was a MAYWEATHER that needs to retire, a MAYWEATHER that with luck will last to the 3rd round……..Why didn’t DE LA HOYA choose TRINIDAD for his “GRAND FINALE”? WHY IS De la Hoya running away from real boxers, boxers that could potentially give a better fight than the one on MAY 2007………TO ME DE LA HOYA IS JUST AN OPPORTUNIST, A COWARD AND A BOXER THAT MADE HIS WAY THROUGH BY FIGHTING WEAK AND READY TO RETIRE BOXERS (REMEMBER CHAVEZ vs DE LA HOYA, MAYORGA vs DE LA HOYA AND VARGAS vs DE LA HOYA?), WHY WAS NEVER THERE A MARGARITO vs DE LA HOYA OR ANOTHER TRINIDAD vs DE LA HOYA?
WELL I ALREADY KNOW THAT DE LA HOYA WILL WIN OVER MAYWEATHER (AN OLD MAN) THAT IS WHY I AM NO WATCHING THE FIGHT AND “THE ONLY THING THAT DE LA HOYA WILL PROVE TO THE WORLD IS HIS INCOMPETENCE AS A FIGHTER(BOXER) AND THAT HE WAS NEVER A TRUE BOXER (CHAMPION)”
THANK YOU
Orale Sr Mex I Can. I believe you have been drinkig HATERAID. I appreciate your knowledge of previous pleitos but if you look at DLH he is a slugger & a boxer w/ great footwork. Its amazing that a Chicano boxer is not allowed to box in the manner of say….Pernell Whitaker for fear of being called a “runner”. I’m a firm believer in equality and DLH has not been treated equally in my estimation. Also I take offense when you have the audacity to say that DLH is a coward. What color is the sky in your world? Did he impregnate a close relative and leave her high & dry? DLH has fought all comers anybody and everybody and contrary to what you think, his window of opportunity to practice his profession is to short to enable him to wait until someone is passed their prime to beat them. In short DLH does’nt need me to defend him his record will speak for itself and I’m confident stand the test of time. While I disagree with your opinion on DLH I firmly believe that if Julio Cesar Chavez were able to meet when they were the same age, say 29 JCC would have beat DLH in 1 of the best fights of all time! In closing Mex I Can, don’t let your hatred of DLH over-ride your good common sense and admit that DLH has all the tools and on top of everything else is still attractive to the fairer sex. y con mucho gusto senor, NachoDaddy a sus ordenes.
let me start by saying 1 thing ,as far as i’m concerned ugly boy floyd is not undefeated. he got 1 loss on his record but thanks to them under the table paid judges!! they gave the decision to ugly boy floyd who took a beating at the hands of my boy JOSE LUIS CASTILLO ,who got robbed big time by the controlled sport of boxing which apperently dictates who the winner should be for the best interest of the sport. and now let me finish my comment by saying 1 thing, i used to be a big boxing fan, but after witnessing ridiculous score card decisions i just became fed up with the sport, i am very sorry to say that, but it’s the truth. sincerely your barely hanging on to the sport of boxing, Gus.
this fight will be alot better than everyone thinks. i think floyd will run around for a while, but oscar will catch him with a left hook and look out. it will be just like when roy jones was truly hit hard for the first time. floyd spends so much time not getting hit that he wont be ready when a clean left hook hits him. and as for oscar. he truly has two losses in his career. the first mosley fight(which he truly underestimated the speed of mosley) and the hopkins fight. the trinidad fight was a joke. the judges gave trinidad the fight because oscar boxed the last 4 rounds. and the second mosley fight was not even close. oscar was much quicker in that fight. he knows what he is in for. oscar will shock alot of people on may 5th.
im a big fan of de la hoya but when push comes to shove i have 2 admitt that floyd will win!!
It’s a fight all us fight fans have been waiting to see and i can’t wait!!:D
Floyd will get the decision( just about)
Well I’m not as u can say a big big boxing fan But,I love big Events like this one. And Oscar Will WIN..
I have to admit that this fight is an interesting matchup, and I can think of valid points to make for each boxer winning AND losing. Should DLH win and then retire, I think that would be a good move for him. Maywether is exciting to watch, an is certian to continue fighting whether he wins or loses, but where does he go next? If his path goes through Wright, that will be the end of his unblemished record. Southpaws ALWAYS create problems, and one as dangerous as Winky Wright should not be dismissed and would frustrate either DLH or PBF.
Very frankly speaking, I believe this one doesn’t have the ingredients to become one for the ages. It’s too much at stake here, DLH has pointed out to Larry Merchant once too often that he wants to retire as a champion and secure his “legacy” fighting against the men who beat him before, that means a 3rd fight with nº1 WBC contender Mosley at 154 pounds for the 154 pds title or a possible joint promotion with Don King Productions for a Trinidad rematch at 160 pounds where Tito feels more at ease, PBF lost his head when Merchant spoiled his night against Baldomir in the post fight interview and tried to play a B-Hop act modern version( vs Morrade Hakkar), either way, both man are trying to get away with a win and impressing Merchant with what they do not have, that is DLH at 33 with the inside game he showed vs J.C.Chavez and PBF with the genuine 154 pounds toughness to go toe to toe. I predict Floyd Jr. to put as many as twice more the number of jabs DLH can put in his best effort, Floyd backpedalling throughout the whole fight, getting away from the ropes and from any sort of close exchanges, DLH looking to establish the jab still at the mid stage of the bout, being pushed by Floyd Sr. to land combinations and finish with the big left hook desperately in the last 3 rounds… I see DLH knocking down PBF once or twice but loosing by 5 or 4 points margin in the judges cards, something like the Roy Jones Jr. vs B-Hop affair, scores such as 116-112. Who wins with this? DLH for the money, PBF for the title, his father’s recognition and an upcoming dream fight with Sugar Shane where he can FIGHT, and Larry Merchant who always finds a way to inflict more pain at the fighters than themselves can throughout the fight… Best defense against Merchant? Do not pretend to be a legend before your final chapter is written or just leave HBO!
First off just a little FYI pretty boy Floyd is a self proclaimed best pound for pound boxer just like Howard Stern is the self proclaimed king of all media. I started boxing at 7 years old and have watched plenty of boxing and really the best boxer pound for pound was Roberto Duran no body could move like him duck like him or work the body like him and 5 decades of boxing has a lot to say about the king of the rope.De La Hoya is also able to work the body with that greatness and as long as hes able to cut the ring which he will I see Mayweather taking his first loss and most likely by a knockout. Lets do this Oscar put that boy in his place.
Replying to Joe – I understand your comment as well as Caliguy 39’s and a lot of other fans, you are a fan of fighters who get and trade in close and rock solid to the body, duck and hook upstairs in between, that’s understandable, normally when someone puts on the gloves tries to follow a pattern which is mentally his favourite fighter’s style and within one’s capabilities, on your toes, jabbing or putting combinations inside, hooking, ducking or whatever, your fighting experience doesn’t have nothing to do with this level… Mayweather is not self-proclaimed pound 4 pound, that’s a whole lot of bull, he is obviously at the top by the Ring magazine, DLH, Mosley, HBO, Showtime, everybody says so, this is not a latino, afro-american fans confrontation either, Mayweather really is going to try to play Mosley’s act back in June 2000, he may get rocked by a 154 pounds legitimate classy fighter because his chin hasn’t been tested and he doesn’t have a big right like Mosley’s, I give you that but I can’t see how DLH can keep him at bay, not allowing him to get inside for a lightning fast counter jab or a straight right hand and getting out with his foot movement, and if DLH eats a lot of those early on, how can he keep cool and doesn’t loose focus? As a fighter, you should know, when you loose your cool and forget what was your game plan, it’s all over, you don’t dictate the pace anymore, experience doesn’t have to do with it either because DLH is not the same 135 or 147 pounds fighter who fought Chavez twice, he is 33 years old now and has fought once in the last 2 years, didn’t use the jab against Mayorga really, I don’t believe DLH best weapons are cutting off the ring and hooking long to the body, in danger of hitting low, leaving his face wide open too against such a young, fast, illusive opponent, I just hope DLH doesn’t get cut himself ( like he cutt Chavez wit a jab in the 1st) or gets rocked early ( like he was in the 1st by Mosley in their 2nd fight), he should make this one into a jabbing contest from outside and as long as he can keep it up, the only 154 or 147 pounds fighters that can match PBF now with a reliable game plan are Sugar Shane, Zab Judah or Paul Williams, I know Shane is going to KO Collazo, Williams is going to beat the winner of Margarito vs Cotto, and Judah will beat any other top dog including Baldomir for a rematch, DLH vs PBF is a money fight, PBF really sucks for a fight fan like we are, DLH trying to make up for the 4 losses in the most stupid way, DLH should leave the ring fighting Trinidad out of retirement, fighting and not boxing like in 1999, and that would be it. Period.
THIS IS JUST A CIRCUS THE PEOPLE WHO IS EXITED ABOUT THI FIGHT DOES NOT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BOXING. MARGARITO VS MIGHEL COTTO THATS A REAL FIGHT
I don’t appreciate Ricardo’s intention of tryin to descredite most people who give their opinion as fighting fans or boxing curious observers… Anyway, I also believe Antonio Margarito vs Miguel Cotto has everything to finish in a stunning fashion, Margarito overwhelming the Puerto Rican with unrelentless pressure like against Cintron or Cotto block bustin the mexican false ribs viciously inside like against Quintana, unpredictable outcome for that one… But really, I mean really, can you see either Margarito or Cotto doing what Baldomir or Judah couldn’t? It takes more than a bully with a big punch to overcome PBF, it really takes a scientific approach, fainting and jabbing, counter punching, ducking like DLH vs Whitaker or PBF vs Judah, are you people boxing fans or ultimate wrestling, martial arts, k1 fans, boxing pro fighters are human beings with a brain, artists who sell their skills for rewards such as paydays or titles, DLH vs PBF is the biggest event in Boxing since DLH vs B-Hop, it has glamour, intrigue, polished consumate pros in there, slapping? Most of you guys would need medical treatment from those slaps, if you are not interested in the fight, forget about it, if undeed you are, make your point clearly…
this is quite simply the fight of the decade it mught not be a great war but im a big fan ov technical boxing clever boxing not or trade 4 trade.People were slagging off pretty boy floyd for absolutely out boxing baldomir who is`naturally alot bigger and stronger than floyd but that is sense why would PBF want to get knocked out for.Oscar de la hoya was absolutely brilliant against mayorga i went to vegas to watch it and DLH was absolutely brillant idnt waste any shots and i couldnt believe how strong he looked but the only i would say is that he was still getting hit. I wouldnt know who to choose in this fight i mean floyds looks to be in better shape than hoya but hoya looks alot bigger than floyd and has been at this weight for a while now and has even gone even heavier. I think floyd is going to be very hard to hit for de la hoya becuase hes not just going to stand there like most of hoyas opponents,neither of them waste any shots what so ever there both very fast,skilful and have genius boxing brains de la hoya is the stronger even though floyd has hidden strength i think the conditioning for both of them will be a key factor for this fight.De la hoya has a brillant chin why mayweathers has hardly ever been troubled.All ov de la hoyas losses apart from hopkins could have easily swung his way.Why i cant remember mayweather ever being in a hard fight and he just seems invincible. If i had to guess id swing for mayweather on points but you can never predict anything at this level in boxing, CAN’T WAIT!!!!!
i dont care if oscar wins or loses i just want some one to test the chin of floyd
On scar and fruto’s, I have seen Oscar’s effort to prevail in there ever since he went all the way with Molina and that was at his best, remember also he has been knockdown twice in 1st rounds before but he was wise enough to get himself out of trouble there, DLH is a very determined, classy, modern fighter who really learns how to improve as he meets tougher challenges how it came out to be as he faced Ruelas, Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey and so on, his upright style at 5ft10 1/2in height was not appropriate to fight the way he did there, he always got away with it, always had that big left hook to keep his opponents gun shy, great jab against Chavez at 140, accurate combination punching against Whitaker and Chavez at 147 but he really came 2nd best against a puncher like Trindad and had to box away and stay on his toes, he fought his heart out but ate a lot of leather from Mosley who I believe was not better than him at 130 but definetly was at 147 pounds, so he moved up to 154 pounds and has managed to fight very smartly to keep that aura, that golden boy status ever since, winning or losing, he is one of the greatest fighters ever to step in the ring still but where is he going against a better boxer, an athlete who is in better condition than he is, who has all the motivation in the world just to win a split decision… This is a disgrace, all DLH previous opponents relied on the one punch not to be outclassed and now he is in there to TEST another figter’s CHIN??? I give more credit to him really, I believe he and Floyd Sr really believe they can develop an approach that will enable him to get PBF thinking twice, I surely hope so but if you guys believe he is about to overpower him just like that, fighting against the clock, upright, head in between his shoulders, looking for the one punch, unleasing 3, 4 combinations per round like against Vargas, relying that the other guy will gas out, remember what happened to Chicanito Hernandez against him ( he was 32-1-1 and was 11 years experienced pro, as tough as he gets)… I do leave some margin whether 154 pounds is too much for PBF and he gets beaten somehow cos he was too demanding on himself like Merchant predicted, it would be more than fair to seem him admitting so after all the cryin, all the nonsense, after he just skipped Margarito and all those folks, can’t wait for May 5th
for me boxing is the science on how you will defeat your opponent, by points or by knock out, but winning without the guts to really mixed it up with your opponent even in a single round or two is like dancing in the rain, PBF is the best P4P at this moment, and he has master his skill and wits, Golden Boy is also a great boxer who has also master his skills and wits, but if they will fight the way Pacman fight win or lose, I think it will be for the greater benefit of boxing. For me the square ring is for the warrior at heart like Ali, Foreman, Frazier,The Great Rock Marciano, Pacman, Morales, Quartey, and other boxers on their level. My prediction Golden Boy for Split Decision or Draw
FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYiNG THE FiGHT iS TO PREETY BOY MAYWEATHER, THiNK AGiAN REMEMBER OSCAR iS KNOWN AS A EXELENT BODY PUNCHER. ALL HE HEAS TO DO iS FiGHT THE WAY HE WASHED UP MAYORGA AND THE FiGHT iS HiS. ALL BET iS TO MY MEXiCANO DE LA HOYA. MAYWEATHER iS GOiNG DOWN ON THiS ONE. DE LA HOYA WiLL OUT BOX HiM ESPECiALLY TO THE RiB CAGE. BUT i DONT NO ABOUT THE FACT THAT HiS TRAiNER iS HiS OPPONENTS FATHER. MAYWEATHER SR. MiGHT NOT PREPARE DE LA HOYA AS GOOD AS USUALE. i JUST NO FOR SURE ALL MONEY iS ON OSCAR. ANOTHER 4 MONTHS AND ALREADY NERVOUS TO SEE DE LA HOYA BREAK FLOYD’S UNDEFEATED RECORD! ! !
I cant stand people saying that Maywether is the best P4P, he’s duckin and dodgin fighters that he knows he’ll have a hard time beatin,…..thatz p*ssy sh!t, you gon fight or not. the Marquez bros. been tryna get a crack at him….Margarito….he only fights catz that he knows he can beat….Baldomir, who didnt know that….boxerz should fight for tha love of the sport….pride….like Roberto Duran(the best)…..i dont like either of the boxers but i hope De la Hoya rockz Mayweather and crackz his jaw.
Woohoo! Something to talk about. My prediction? Oscar DLH in the 9th with a right cross? Yup, a right cross. Floyd has a great defence against the left hook so I don’t see that getting in. Also, my DLH pick stems from Floyd’s fight with Zab. In my opinion, he looked like crap in that fight too. That was the fight that saw floyd slow just a little bit with his moves up in weight and it also saw a legitimate knock down of Floyd. Watch the tape! It happened. DLH by late stoppage in a great fight!
The Ring Magazine October 2006 has pointed out the personification of De La Hoya’s achilles heel, Mosley, too fast to outbox, too well-conditioned to outlast, too strong to outpunch, and just left doubts about Mayweather in the last department, so… People continue to believe DLH has the one shot to leave PBF flat on the deck, left hooks like the one that left Quartey almost knocked the f*** out on his feet or right crosses such as the one he threw centuries ago against frenchman Chevalier or Kenya’s Kamau, c’mon man! Those guys came right at DLH head first, hands on their pockets… This has nothing to do with the one punch or PBF being 7 pounds north of the border, it has everything to do with Championship caliber and heart, remember Sugar Ray moving smooth on his feet and scoring each and every time on Hagler who was obviously stronger but could not give more than one angle at Ray, I don’t take Floyd for granted but I have never seen him hurt and that knockdown against Zab was similar to DLH’s versus Quartey on the 6th when BOTH went down, touching the glove on the canvas, Zab did snap Floyd’s head back many times but did not make him crumble or beat the s*** out of him like he did against Cory Spinks in St.Louis and “the next generation” is IBF 154 pounds titlist too, and Floyd Sr really made DLH box better behind his left shoulder and countering instead of all that anxious jumping around, waiting too much, looking hopelesly for openings against Quartey or Whitaker!
Most people believe PBF should be knocked flat on the deck May the 5th because he was too much pretty and not enough gritty in his last fight, c’mon man, get outa here… Leonard was more cocky than PBF ever was vs Duran in their 2nd encounter and still the hands of stone, the macho from Panama City said “No mas”, it’s for Sugar Ray Robinson, Leonard, Sugar Shane, Floyd Mayweather that boxing is so sweet, not for the straight forward La Mottas, Haglers and Durans in the world, these guys were great fighters, they have defensive skills but they don’t give angles to it, move smoothly enough, counter punch, too flat footed… The Ring magazine Oct 2006 has put it this way, the personification of DLH’s achilles heel is Mosley, too fast to outbox, too well-conditioned to outlast, too strong to outpunch, being PBF short in this last department… I say even though he is 7 pounds north of his border, DLH is not going to catch him up like that, with a right lead like against frenchman Carpentier or Kenya’s Kamau, maybe a left hook here and there but remember please that PBF was not hurt against Zab, that knockdown was similar to De La Hoya’s vs Quartey in the 6th when BOTH went down, Glove on the Canvas out of balance, then Zab did snap Floyd’s head back but was finished pressed against the ropes and had to punch low and rabbit punch, something that never happened when he beat the shit out of “The Next Generation” in St. Louis and Spinks is IBF champion now at 154… Finally, Floyd Sr. has teached DLH to box better, to save his engine, using his shoulders, clinching here and there and not to waist himself jumping around, waiting too much anxiously for the opening and the one shot and not having enough left when needed as it did happen in the 12th vs Quartey, nonsense Floyd Sr is going to affect DLH
Just for the record, DLH knockdown out of balance, hand on the canvas was against Whitaker, against Quartey he went down on the seat of his trunks, that right cross was against Carpentier in El Paso and ever since he seldom used the right lead… Finally, DLH believes Freddie Roach made Pacman and not the other way around, soooo wrong, Roach was there when Williams unleashed a 20 punch combination vs Tyson, when Holyfield put Moorer on the deck 5 times and I cannot see how can he add something more to this equation, now Winky wants to take the winner but maybe not before he meets 41 year older B-Hop at 170, nonsense, he’s not as sweet as PBF, Sugar Shane, Leonard, Robnson and not as tough as Duran, Hagler, La Motta, nonsense…
Love him or not, lets face the facts. Mayweather is probably the best fighter Boxing has seen since Sugar Ray Robinson! With a perfect combination of Speed, Smarts, Defense and Power. The only way Oscar wins this one is in his bank account. With that being said, I have to believe this will be a great fight to watch! By the way, has anyone seen Arturro Gatti lately? Why don,t he and Ricky Hatton meet half way on the weight and give us fans a real brawl to watch for a change?
I know this might be one or the biggest fights the world has ever seen.floyed is talented fast and everything a good boxer needs.hes proved to be the best,no one could beat him.the only person that even has a chance is oscar de la hoya.which is practically a veteran,to fight and make millions.floyed s not making any good money,hes hasnt fought almost any famous people.this gives him a good chance to be in the hall fame and be richer than ever.Now oscar has fought known and famous boxers like julio ceasar chavez,mosley,trindad and many others.I think floyd is gonna win this one,because hes the best in the sport.but in this fight im rooting for oscar to take tha gold.
If you guys think Oscar has a chance then you guys dont know boxing at all, why dont you guys stick to video games,you might do better,if you guy want to loose money then bet on Oscar
It’s about damn time mayweather got this match. So much wait and anticipation. On may 5th no longer will anybody have to wait. This will be a legendary match. Look forward to seeing it as one of the biggest sporting events of all time.
Mayweather all the way!!!
It’s about damn time mayweather got this match. So much wait and anticipation. On may 5th no longer will anybody have to wait. This will be a legendary match. Look forward to seeing it as one of the biggest sporting events of all time.
Mayweather all the way!!!
Oscar de la hoya ass is already down and out this match will be all mayweather so i don’t know what the hell you boys talking bout but, everything is going to go Mayweather’s way on May 5th
Maywaether can eat a fat one.
Oscar has one chance at winning this fight, the only way he can win is to land his left hook. Floyd is moving up another weight class and will not be used to that power, nor will he have knockout power in the heavier weight. Floyd is a much better boxer. For those that say Oscar has more experience, he only has 5 more pro fights. For those that say Floyd runs around the ring, news flash this is boxing. Ali ran around the ring for 15 years and some say hes the greatest. Floyd is too fast and to hard to hit. If he does get caught with the left hook he will learn to avoid it. I”m taking Floyd 118-110. The most important thing Floyd has to be aware of is his right hand lead to the body, which will open him up to a Oscar left hook. Oscar has to be aware he is fighting pretty boy Floyd, not Mosley, Vargas or Mayorga. Floyd is in a group all his own and will go down as one of the top 5 fighters of all time, as long as he doesn’t over stay his welcome.
I’ll preface everything by saying that I love Oscar. I think he’s shown great talent and class throughout his career. He’s taken all comers, provided paydays for many people, shown heart and intelligence in the ring. I really respect the fact that he personally took measure to have alot of Mexican fighters promoted on his Boxeo Del Oro. He has taken flack from some Mexican fight fans because his style wasn’t in the vein of a Chavez. He and Chavez are two different men. Different body types, abilties, genetics, etc. In terms of this fight however, I don’t think he matches well against PBF. In the past Oscar has had difficulity with extremely fast, technical fighters and PBF epitomizes fast and technical. His vision is keen, defense is amazing. His pop is deceptive. Unlike alot of other fighters with these attributes, his ability to think on his feet and adjust is exceptional. I am a great fan but not unrealistic. Truthfully we haven’t really seen PBF in deep, deep waters because he knows how to manage himself and his opponent during the course of a fight. The only real problems I saw him have was with Castillo I and the first few rounds Zab. Oh yeah, and that crazy cat Emanuel Agustus, who can actually box and gives a lot of people fits. But actually these fights gave a little more seasoning to Floyd. Of course the left hook is always a threat but Fellas, honestly, I don’t know if Oscar has the kind of style that is really going to take him there in this fight. Personally, I’d rather have seen PBF matched against Shane Mosely or a ” I got my mind right” Zab Judah.
mayweather is obviously going to beat dela hoyas tail. I dnt think he will get the ko but he will show oscar a boxing lesson for 12 rounds.
I do agree with every and any single point Hollywood mentioned, Oscar is great and all is fights are entertaining, he has had an illustrious career and has all merit in making this one come true as a promotor… PBF never has been in what Hollywood calls deep waters and Oscar has been vs Chavez II, vs Whitaker, vs Ike Quartey, vs Felix Trinidad, vs Shane Mosley I & II, vs Fernando Vargas, vs B-Hop, pushed to the limit and has shown Championship Caliber and heart and in case it goes that way, I don’t take PBF for granted… He’s waisting himself with Hype, Hatton’s belly and foolish punk ass comments, I truly believe always classy, stronger Shane will put a final point in the Mayweather “Saga” either at 147 or 154 lbs… Or Paul Williams for that matter.
This is truly funny. I have always been a fan of great fighters especially De Lahoya. People here are apparently speaking emotionally. Floyd has never been a runner. It is every fighters first responsibility to avoid getting hit. Stick and move is the philosophy. Brawlers don’t last long in the sport without getting hurt. Oscar is the one who is out of his weight class so to speak. I would much rather see him retire than go out on his back. People keeping saying Floyd doesn’t have the pop, but one thing to remember is that 16ounces equals a pound wether they are in one big lump or stacked one at a time. If chipped away at long enough an iceberg evetually becomes a cube. Someone needs to do the math again
Infinite1, everybody knows that ever since the Castillo fights and the Victoriano Sosa fight, moving up to 140 lbs was not going to bring power to PBF’s game, he took a lot of left hooks and right blasters from Chop Chop Corley but won that one big, almost every round, made Gatti quit after taking unanswered lightning, loud sharp shots in an amazing performance of skill and speed, bombed away washed up Sharbma Mitchell and then the Judah affair and the Baldomir stinker, he’s getting into serious jeopardy here, he’s going to feel the punches alright and even more so than he felt Baldomir’s or Judah’s… Can he take it? That’s the bottom line here and I do believe Floyd can never develop power if he keeps his body tight, unleashes half dead right hands, he doesn’t throw with the strenth of his shoulder, it’s just a points scorer and the jab sometimes no more than a rage finder… He has a great defense though, but if he’s gonna lean into the corner behind that left shoulder against De La Hoya, I really don’t know.
Floyd is gonna totally outclass DLH….People say Mayweather can’t punch….Well ask Corrales….Ask Mitchell…..As Gatti….Floyd had a bad performance against Baldomir only because he was looking forward to DLH….Come May 5Th Floyd will be ready and i wouldn’t be surprised if Floyd stops DLH….You don’t necessary have to have BIG power to get a TKO….He got one against Gatti and i think he will totally dominate DLH making the ref put a end to the torture in the 9th round….Floyd by TKO
i think that mayweather is definitely the better and faster boxer. i think if it goes to a decision then mayweather will win. however like most of floyds opponents, de la hoya has the strength to knock mayweather, but unlike most of floyds opponents, he posesses the proper fundamentals to maybe catch floyd. if the left connects its over. i think de la hoya is the only boxer who has a chance at mayweather and i think hes got a good shot.
DE LA HOYA!!! he aint gone u all saw how he punnished mayorga n that guy was biger n stonger but he is gonna have to work hard to beat floyd but HE DEFINATLY CAN
I have watched closely all Mayweather fights, said it once and say it again, his greatest athletic and boxing weaponis his footwork, he slips off his opponents masterfully and clocks them with speed more than power with that range finder left jab and half dead right leads and gets off, he did hurt Corrales with unexpected shots, had Castillo’s nose and mouth bloody and did out-maneuver Gatti and Baldomir… Sometimes it seems guys cannot hit his ostrich-skin trunks with a handful of salt but I don’t believe any of these guys, Castillo, Gatti, Judah, Baldomir really respected PBF’s punching power and at 154 lbs, DLH doesn’t look to be the first to do it, if Mayweather loses that feet agility, he will be in deep waters alright and for the first time for him!
Oscar and the left hook huh? His last few opponents, let’s see…Mayorga-Hopkins-Sturm-Mosley-Vargas-Campas-Castillejo-Gatti- Of these fighters who did he knock out? The face first brawlers who were very slow. Mayweather does not fall into this category and at this level in boxing, the few lbs. difference wont matter, its about skill and who can exert their style more effectively over 36 minutes. Floyd is at the absolute top of his game right now and he should go out next year while he is still on top after beating Mosley and Wright. He won’t be appreciated now but 5 years down the road you will all look back and say, yeah I remember watching that cat fight, he could do it all. Mark my words. The May 5 fight will be THE fight of this generation so make your plans now. My prediction? After some good exchanges over the first few rounds and lots of posing, PBF will begin to catch The GB with shots he can’t see coming and it will be the beginning of the end. Mayweather TKO6 De La Hoya (and Oscar is one of my favorite fighters of all time so dont think I am biased).
mayweather tko6 to de la hoya, are you crazy he lost with castillo, they fought in 135 pounds did you see his last fight he is too small for de la hoya this is just for money use your head.
Oscar is bigger, stronger and more experienced. Granted Pretty boy may be a bit quicker but he has never really been tested with a guy who can punch like Oscar. Let’s see what happens when Oscar hits PB with the left hook and overhand right. I pick Oscar and so does Angelo Dundee.
Hey PedroRodd..You must have missed the Mayorga fight. Oscar dropped Mayorga like a bad habit and Ricardo was weighing in at about 168. Pretty Boy will run but eventually have to fight because Oscar although a bit slower is still fast. PB is a boxer but not much of a fighter.
PBF doesn’t know what he says and that goes for his handlers and fans too… In NYC, he was so nervous he was admitting DLH is stronger but could never catch him up and that was Oscar a runner like him he would have the Trinidad fight won, at the same time, he was telling the Press he wanted to please the fans with “blood, sweat and tears”, yeah, Floyd, like in the Baldomir fight, he’s cracking up already and is full of crap and hype, Merchant makes him snap, cries all over the Press room, makes his farewell, insults Hatton in between, the guy deserves to lose very soon in the Roy Jones Jr. against Tarver II fashion!
I agree that PBF is confused and talks BS. PBF claims to have fought the best, but really, who has he fought? If he keeps that left hand down by his waist against Oscar he will be KO’ed. I hope Oscar keeps relentless pressure on PBF and that is exactly how speed is nullified. If Ali’s speed could be smothered by Joe Frazier who was a smaller man then Oscar should have no problems doing the same to PBF. If Oscar keeps rushing him and throwing punches then PBF gets stopped or better yet KO’ed.
Wayne, ODH already stated that, he’s gonna get down rough and dirty on the kid, the kid is already hyperactive in speech and constantly moves from the table in the Press Conference, he is anxious cos he’s never been here… Be sure ODH will clinch, push, lean over, hold and punch in the blind side of the ref, will slow him down and make him fight… I guess Floyd will get away with the numbers and stats by the end if he gets there and doesn’t go to pieces mentally, Mayweather should win but no doubt he talks and will not do the walk, “Blood, sweat and tears” , punk ass, lol
to all those ppl that think pbf will win keep dreamin.pbf has not fought no one as good as oscar.just compare pbf last opponent baldomir and his next opponent oscar. no comparison baldomir is not as fast,strong or as good as boxer as oscar.to win this fight pbf will at some point have to exchane with oscar and that will be a big mistake. sry to all pbf fans your boy is gonna get knocked out by the 4 th round
boxing fans here’s the truth of the game a good fight can go either way depending on what one fighter does and the other doesnt……..which leads me to this…..FLOYD BY UD…why??? well lets look at track recods at top of the game fights…….DLH is good and a hall of famer no doubt…so is floyd… delahoya has beaten credible opposition but so has floyd…..delahoya has lost but floyd hasnt….delahoys gets lazy in the middle rounds with his punch output floyd doesnt….delahoya has really lost fights that was given to him…..whittaker,strum,quartey,MOLINA….floyd never given anything and one close fight castillio immediate rematch and a spanking to castillio…delahoya if its close he will not give you a rematch…with bullsh*# like well the people want me to move on….a comment he made right after quartey…but let him lose he’ll whine cry and scream foul….floyd…well never lost…here’s why kiddies styles make fights and floyd is an adjuster to styles punchers-boxers-brawlers-or a combo there of….oscar well he’s not good against slick fast hand boxer punchers..see mosely-b-hops-/whittaker who couldnt punch…..if your slow or face foward oh yeah he’ll eat you up but let you be on par with ole boy…different story.as for the haterz like…. ray lay-anna-sergio-mexican-gus garcia-david-pat-amit balliadin-mia305 write me may 6 cause may 5th you’ll be cryin for your golden one…he’ll be tarnished…bruhahahahahahaha
noirnoticvibe is a very interesting case of a Mayweather fan. I really luv to bring both Floyd and Oscar fans back to earth according to what they say or mention… Oscar is a hall of famer but he had to fight everybody to earn that, Whitaker, the previous pound 4 pound nº1, Quartey, the all mighty bazooka undefeated puncher and who stopped prev unbeaten Espana, Molina, Lou Duva’s toughest trainee and a former world champ vs Tony Lopez, Sturm, the unbeaten 6′1” wbo 160 lbs titlist in Oscar first fight at that weight class, given??? Get outa here! This is the typical Mambo Jambo before the fights, diminishing your opponent… Exactly like Floyd is doing, calling his father out, saying Golden Boy Promotions treated his team like s***, interrupting everybody, carrying the mexican flag and s***, only psychological blows to Oscar’s already over-charged mind… Let’s speak the truth here, Mayweather didnt give Castillo a spanking the 2nd time around, he out-boxed him the very same way, clocks em with fast flush jabs and right counters, spins, slides and gets off with masterful footwork, he had an astonishing display of skill in New Jersey city vs the Thunder and was on his knees in tears for what was a beauty, came along with more confidence, Judah and Baldomir are very hard mountains to climb up but this is a whole different contest, Oscar doesn’t land flush but thumping left hooks and sound right shots, he’s as smart and has a longer, crisper, better jab than Floyd’s… I expect Floyd to come out the winner by UD because DLH can’t keep it up in the last 9 or 12 minutes and should lose in the end stretch AGAIN, but even Floyd already admitted the other guy is stronger, hits harder and has heart, if he’s gonna win for speed, he’s not gonna win the next one, Sugar Shane Mosleeeeey
Hey could someone please impart their thoughts about Zab vs Cotto in
June. This could be a monster fight here.
I honestly see floyd winning the first round with his speed,but after that oscar will dominate,because oscar’s jab will neutralize floyd’s speed.
Oscar is by far the better boxer and he looked devastating and brutal against mayorga.Even in de la hoya’s loses by decision the fights were close on the scorecards,so nobody will ever dominate oscar,besides hopkins who was simply too bigand too skilled for oscar.
Floyd has great reflexes,agility,speed and defense,but soo didn’t mosley until he faced forrest,vernon neutralized mosley’s speed with his jab.Oscar has the experience,great jab,great chin and come fightnight he will be in great shape and he will be highly motivated.
Floyd cant just count on oscar to tire,because he could get dominated for the whole fight and he has to worry about somethin he’s never faced before and that’s a jab and a world-class fighter with overall skills.
Speed,reflexes and agilty alone wont beat oscar,because there’s 2 things floyd needs to do,develop a jab and learn how to fight,if not then he’s in for a world of hurt.
Let’s see mosley and trinidad had to eventually fight oscar after losing the first half of the fight,so we will see if floyd comes to fight and if he doesn’t then he will be running all night.
Doe’s anybody notice that floyd leaps and lunges when he throws his straight right hand,that work’s against low-level competition,but against oscar he could get countered with a left hook.
The bottom line is anything floyd can do,oscar can do better with more power and the only thing floyd has over oscar is speed,but to me and most boxing fans oscar looked far better against mayorga then floyd looked against baldomir.
I’m not a floyd hater,but i think with his skills and ability he should have fought guy’s like stevie johnston,stevie forbes,casamay,or spadafora,because overall those guy’s have just as equal skills as he did at lightweight.
Judah,gatti,bruseles,mitchell,baldomir,corley and sosa wont get u ready or prepare u against a world-class fighter like de la hoya.
De La Hoya Dominates this fight from the opening on his skills and experience alone and expect floyd to have the same kinda fear of releasing his hands just like green had against miranda.
De La Hoya by ud or De La Hoya by Ko within 8 rounds.
noirnoticvibe and sug3, here you have the perfect examples of bs and crap talkin but on opposite idols, PBF and Oscar… They are good observers though and even start makin some sense when the first ackowledges the fight can go either way but then blows it when he diminishes Oscar’s opponents like Whitaker, Molina, Quartey and Sturm, sug3 also makes sum sense talkin about how can Oscar use his jab to neutralize Floyd’s speed like Forrest did against Mosley ( actually Oscar said he would do that and would rough him up too like B-hop did against him from rounds 5 to 9) but then repeats noirnoticvibe as he says Stevie Johnston or Joel Casamayor would have been a better challenge to Floyd at 135 when Johnston struggled with Castillo and Casamayor with Corrales and Floyd sent Chico 5 times to the deck and beat twice Castillo even though close both times… Floyd does not have just speed, he is an economical, clean punching, sharp shooter with both hands, aiming to the head ( vs Corrales, Ndou) or to the body ( vs Mitchell), has excellent boxing skills, ringside generalship and defense ( vs Judah, vs Corley, vs Gatti, vs Baldomir) but he has shown to lack effective agressiveness and that is exactly what DLH is going to explore, hold him up when Floyd falls over him with the right lead and then tries to get off pushing him with the left as he usually does with fast movement, using his footwork… If Oscar catches him on the way in with a heymaker like he did against Ruelas or Mayorga or if Floyd is not that quick getting off, then it’s goodbye Floyd, if Floyd beats him to the punch too many times with youth, condition and agility, probably Oscar will lose his confidence and do the exact same thing Chicanito Hernandez did against both, simply give up and get hurt with the accumulation of punches, it really can go either way… Now, nornoticvibe and sug3, respect you both but can’t agree with your points, Floyd is beatable and Oscar lost fairly before, this is all about too much money at stake, no guy will give the other a rematch and risk twice their so-called legacies, believe me!
Floyd Mayweather is not just about speed, he is a sharp shooter with both hands and aims both to the head ( vs Ndou, vs Corrales) as well as to the body (vs Mitchell) and he does so cos he’s agile on his legs, has lightning hand speed and moves his body accordingly.
Oscar De La Hoya is crafty enough to make this one into an entertaining contest cos he has better boxing skills than the previous Floyd’s opponents had. That being said, Oscar probably will try to explore what may be his only chance not to come 2nd best in the eyes of the judges here, that is effective aggressiveness… Ringside generalship, Defense, Clean Punching are Floyd’s greatest accents so DLH has to focus on building up his Game in spite of neutralizing, breaking or affecting Floyd’s performance.
Floyd Mayweather beat the best of the 135 and 130 pound fighters since he clearly had the edge over Jose Luis Castillo twice ( even though close and closer the 2nd time around) and over Diego Corrales ( 5 times on the deck) so he didn’t need to prove himself to Joel Casamayor or Stevie Johnston who lost respectively to Corrales and Castillo before, and in common sense, Floyd absolutely does have better quality than Spadafora, Lazcano and all those folks.
Oscar De La Hoya fought the best opponents of his time, Molina, Whitaker, Quartey, Carr, Sturm, all those folks… But he lost close and fairly to Mosley, maybe was about even with Tito but he has been favoured too against Sturm, all his fights were competitive though including B-Hop who roughed him up and had more power but was never proven better skilled…
Noirnoticvibe and sug3 points, can’t agree with, I believe the fight can go either way depending on this: Floyd enters Oscar defense fast with a right lead and pushes him off with the left as he moves forward and back with reflexes and footwork, if he’s too heavy to get off quickly he’ll get tagged with haymakers and Oscar can really snap ya like against Ruelas or Mayorga, if Oscar cannot execute the jab, rough him up, hold inside as he promised, he’ll feel the accumulation effect and probably will either last to a shameful large UD or give up like Chicanito Hernandez did against both DLH and PBF once.
THIS COMENT IS FOR ‘MILL’ YOUR BRAIN IS NOT WORKING YOUR SAYING THAT ZAB AND COTTO IS GOING TO BE A GOOD FIGHT YOU ARE CRAZY ZAB IS THE LOOSER OF THE YEAR COTTO IS A CHICKEN HE SHOULD FIGHT MARGARITO IS TIME THAT COTTO FIGHT A REAL OPONENT
Alfredo attacked Mil pointlessly, Cotto vs Judah is a good fight since Cotto is coming through undefeated from 140 and has already made his point there ( Corley, NDou, Torres, Sosa) and now moves to 147 to annihilate everything coming his way ( Quintana, mandatory challenger Urkal), Zab is the excellent fighter we know the way he was once undisputed welter champ when he dismantled Spinks… Ever since, he has had less good performances, nobody forgets his bad loosing temper at Jay Nady after the Tzsyu fight, his welcome blow to the hip of Baldomir when the ref was giving final instructions or the horrible pre-meditated low blow and rabbit punch to Floyd that made uncle Roger explode, but Zab is an excellent contender and a top dog to fight toe to toe with another big puncher Cotto. Please do not call Cotto a chicken cos Margarito backed off their June 9th date cos the WBO is ordering him to meet Paul Williams, Alfredo…
i think if oscar is in great shape come fight night, he will outbox floyd. oscar is a seasoned fighter, fought almost all the greatest fighters in his weight. but one factor that would be very crucial is the “wear and tear”. he has gone so many battles and perhaps he’s not the de la hoya we know. on the other hand, floyd will be highly favored because of his youth, momentum and confidence. though i dont like the way he fights (jab and run style) but at the end of the day, a win is a win, may it be KO or decision. i just feel that floyd is not exciting fighter to watch. he trash-talk at the presscon but run and run in the ring. (unlike ALI, talks and fights like no end). my prediction, de la hoya wins by split decision! goodluck
I’ve never been a big fan of Oscar…but Floyd just irritates the hell out of me. I dislike Floyd and his mouth worse than Mayorga. I wish I saw the same spark in Oscar’s eye over this matchup…but I don’t. If Oscar can catch the faster Floyd…and I mean really catch him hard with that left…repeatedly! I believe he will keep his belt. Otherwise, Floyd will just make him look embarrasingly slow and out box him for twelve rounds.
My Prediction:
Oscar by TKO or Floyd by Decision
MAYWEATHER GETS KNOCKED THE F**k out in the 6th round. Trinidad comes out say he wants to fight Oscar,and that wil be Oscar’s last fight.
I remember when Little Floyd fired Papa Floyd and Jeff Mayweather from his corner and evicted Papa Floyd from his own home in Las Vegas after sending invoices to the convicted cocaine smuggler totalling $ 7,000 and repossessed his car from him. Roger Mayweather who was not talking to his brother for years, took over Lil Floyd’s carrer and had been quoted as saying this about Mayweather Sr and his boxing career: “he lost to bulls*** fighters, he was never the fighter I was.”
I found particularly funny when Floyd Mayweather fought Diego Corrales at the MGM Grand, Papa Floyd was not even given a credential to get inside the ring, Roy Jones Jr took his from his chest and gave it to him, Daddy got inside the ring and the drama unfolded as Father and Son embraced for a long time… Larry Merchant took the cynical opportunity to ask Pretty Boy with Uncle Roger in one side of him and Floyd Sr on the other ” What was your Father’s part and what was Roger’s part tonight?”… Floyd clearly didn’t know what to say but mentioned Papa Floyd teached him defense and Roger an equal part in the rest, lol… I guess we are going to see the “Two Best Trainers in the World” mixing up instructions from outside the ring and in the corner while Floyd winks and talks to Jim Lampley at the same time.
I dont know guyz this is going to be the fight of all fights but “The Golden Boy: Is going to take it over Mayweather
Look, 80% of all of ya, do not even know s**t about boxing, ya are talking about floyd running from Baldomir, it’s called real skill boxing, if you want to talk about running, let’s talk about Oscar against Trinidad, that’s running. Ya, say De La Hoya fought all the great fighters, MY ASS, if you know your boxing history, de la hoya has a total of what 41 or 42 fights, we all know the first 18 were chumps, the next 15 were old, whitaker old, oba carr old, Chavez (the true Mexican champ)old, Camacho old, Rueles old, I can go on forever, so now it’s time to step up to world class fighters, first of all vargas challenged De La Hoya for 2 years, DLH never wanted the fight, then trinidad came and gave him a career ending beating, now he wants to fight, same situation with mayorga, trinidad gave him a beating also. Here we go, Mosley, he lost twice, Hopkins ko’d his ass, he got a gift with, Sturm, and Quartey, aginst trinidad he was winning the fight until he pulled that little fag shit at the end, and we all know trinidad in the late rounds is very dangerous, I guess de la hoya knew that also, so really who did he beat, everyone he was supposed to beat, he beat, every fight that was with a tough opponent he lost. Thank god for his looks because the women are the one’s buying the tickets, real fighting fans know his fight game sucks. He is a fony mexican, if you watch his fights before Chavez, he never came out with mariachi’s or even spoke spanish, then after chavez he became some mexican idol, s**t not this mexicano, I don’t fall for his fake s**t.
Just for the record, one of those chumps Ricky Morones talks about was Floyd’s uncle Jeff Mayweather ( who has the same style) but I agree most of Hoya’s opponents were fed to him, ever since he won a 130 pounds WBO title from Jimmi Bredhal in hometown L.A. in only his 12th pro fight back in 94, the same year it would be a washed up Paes for the WBO 135 title and in 1995, Molina and Ruelas for lightweight titles, in 96 weary Chavez for the WBC 140 and in 97 Whitaker for the WBC 147 version, he was carried by Bob Arum, no doubts about it but still he was far more exciting than Floyd who also fought Gatti, Genaro Hernandez, guys on the taking and a bunch of nobodies like Henry Bruseles… Never ever Hoya performed as poorly as Floyd vs Baldomir, Floyd didn’t fight cos he knew he could have been kayoed in any exchange… The same way never will he trade with ODH now, I don’t expect him to have the guts to fight Mosley afterwards and his sobbing demostrantions after the Baldomir fight goes to show who is a fake ass… Oscar isn’t a mexican warrior like Rafael Marquez or Israel Vasquez but I guess he’s also a fake ass greedy individual.
The truth of the matter is PBF will feel the thunder, his dad will be surprised when Oscar rocks his baby big mouth Floyd. Lets face it (left hook) Mayweather will…
I thought twice about what Ricky Morones stated and came out to find that Oscar came in all the way from his professional debut with one glove on the mexican flag and the other on the stars and stripes’, even when he fought supposedly all mexican “The Aztec Warrior”, his robe and trunks had both flags on them, long time trainer Alcazar only spoke spanish to him, before the 2nd fight with Mosley, the mexican national anthem was sang in honour of his parents… I am not saying he’s not looking for the hispanic support en el cinco de Mayo but nothing supports the idea he’s a genuine fake ass. Oscar is greedy alright but that thing of his 18 first opponents were chumps is WRONG, that means Molina, Ruelas and Hernandez were in that category, Chavez had only lost to Randall in the 1st time and Hall of Famer Whitaker also had just 1 loss, Quartey none and Oba Carr was top ranked, Camacho survived Hoya, Whitaker, Chavez and Trinidad altogether so nothing tells me those were bs title defenses, Hoya didn’t run from Trinidad, just outboxed him early and was hit plenty of times in the end stretch to lose close, beat junior welters former titlists Castillejo, Vargas, Mayorga and Yory Boy and former middle two time titlist Sturm, just lost a TKO to B-Hop who is now a light-heavy so no comparision to Floyd and I have to say, yes, Oscar fought everybody and has merit in still fighting Mayweather… Now consider who PBF fought after he beat Castillo close, those were Sosa and NDou at 135 ( 4 fights total), Corley, Bruseles, Gatti at 140 ( 3 fights) and Mitchell, Zab and Baldomir at 147 ( 3 fights)… Now go back and review your speach, Ricky!
I know Floyd is obviously the favorite but we must all remember nobody works harder to get ready for a fight than Oscar and he also isn’t scared of anybody, plus Floyd has all the pressure on him
Obviously I meant Junior middles or Super Welters former titlists Hoya fought in Castillejo, Vargas, Yory Boy Campas and Mayorga and those and the 2 middlewight fights give ODH an edge in the psychological frame in this one. Besides, Mayweather is looking for this fight as long as he was lightweight Champion, he’s looking for the money too and surely doesn’t believe Hoya is the man to beat… If Floyd retires and never face either Mosley or Cotto or Margarito, he’s going down in history just like former hwt champ Tunney, nobody wil care!!!
people say boxers run when there on there bike in the ring.mayweather doesn’t run,he boxes.(hint)the sweet science.hit without being hit.if hoya does the same thing regardless of power it becomes a strategty which incorporates the sweet science even more.in my opinion,mayweather is a better boxer and if his A-game is on,oscar will loose…but oscar is no easy walk in the park.He is a very experienced boxer with a hail of a tract record and the best left hook i seen to date.Oscar is smart and very dangerous at any point in the fight,one slip to many and it will be curtains for mayweather.the problem is there is limited flaws in mayweathers boxing game and he’s just crazy wit it
i think floyd may win!!!!!!!!!1 hehehehehE!!!!!!!!!! MAYWEATHER!!!!!
WHOS WANT TO BET!!!?????
HOW MUCH?????
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damn…in an effort to hate to the next level you PRETTY BOY FLOYD MAYWEATHER haters really dont know anything about boxing…has oscar been a credit to the sport, yes…in an @$$ kissin kind of way…look i’ll explain a few things…..1) De la hoya has never faced fighters either….ummmm like gabriel ruealas…sure he fought the slower, clumsier brother in raphael but made sure not to face the faster, stronger, younger brother….when john john molina roughed him up and should of won a split decision oscar would’nt give the rematch…..when quartey beat oscar for 10 of the 12 rounds and oscar got the gift decision he said right after the fight people want me to move on…what people was this …joel…his pops….and for the LAST DAMN TIME stop TOUTING MARAGITO AS IF HE IS POUND FOR POUND………not with loses to knowbodies..had dude not injuried his hand maragito would of been beatin which i felt he was still, now he looked bad….2) his fight w/baldomir he beat up baldy so baldy was talking about retiring…he said.. watch the tape… floyd was to fast and to slick..he aint say one thing about running….plus you never stand right in front of a guy with only a punchers chance you combo slide,step, turn…which floyd does…and does well…oscar got beat up by felix strum…why did’nt he give him a rematch…..cause as HIStory goes oscar will not face anyone who has come close to winning or won but got the golden shaft……floyd only really tough fight against castillio immediate rematch UD….so what’s really good? oh STOP ACTING LIKE MARAGITO COULD BEAT FLOYD..he’s to slow and to mechanical for the fluid speed, power, combo, defense of the pretty one
oscar all the way …………..or the retirement highway one way or another it will the the last great fight he will fight no doubt he will prolly lose but it will be close and will once again be known as one of the greatest boxers of all time pretty boy likey hes not in his prime is all i can say PEACE !!!!!!!! 1 more time oscar lets do it!!
noirnoticvibe message is really a breakthrough to the realms of insanity: 1 – The clumsier Gabe Ruelas’ brother Rafael was 42-1-1, 5′11” tall and was IBF lightweight Champion, Gabe was super-featherweight titlist and actually took on Jimmy Garcia on the undercard just to kill him… 2 years later, Gatti took care of Gabe. How the hell can anyone give it to Molina when all he did was brawl and take combinations all night long against Hoya but a Molina supporter himself… Sorry, no Molina supporter, just a ODH hater would tell Quartey deserved to win 10 out of 12 rounds when he was knock down and virtually KOed in the 12th! I was surprised one judge gave it to Ike when it was a clear UD for Oscar.
2 – Floyd never stood in front of Baldomir, put on what he calls a boxing clinic because he broke his hand. God Damn it, how could he break one hand and will be fighting now? Miraculous hand heelin’ here, get outa here, he run and picked points with pitty pat punches here and there!!!
Mr. Noirnoticvibe, Oscar didn’t give Sturm a rematch cos there was a big money fight waiting to build up that year, Hopkins Hoya, remember they fought on the same venue???
Oscar fough Mosley twice and didn’t need to, faced a middle who TKOed Trinidad in B-Hop and just didn’t rematch with Tito because Tito has Don King around him and lost 12 out of 12 against Winky!
Floyd had a tough fight with Castillo yes but then just two more defenses against Sosa and NDou and stepped up, already back then claiming for a fight with Oscar. I personally believe Floyd will never face either Margarito, Cotto or Mosley because he’s a masterful lightweight who puffed himself up to get a million dollar payday facing Oscar, the other guys would have a better chance to beat him and he doesn’t want that, he claims he’s better than Sugar Ray Robinson, lol
I have much respect for both fighters.They represent boxing very well;I consider each of them a gentleman.Each of them has tremendous skills,which,if executed smartly,can be of great advantage to each fighter.Very often,Oscar’s speed and Floyd’s power and ability to take a punch,are underrated.
While this is a difficult fight to call,I give the advantage to Oscar for the first six rounds;however,I give the advantage to Floyd in the last six rounds.
I think Floyd’s activity and natural athleticism,will be the deciding factor in this fight.For Oscar to win,he would have to hurt Floyd early and break Floyd’s confidence;which is a difficult task for Oscar.On the other hand,Floyd could also hurt Oscar early by cutting up his face with very quick combinations.This scenario,probably would not break Oscar’s resolve,but would certainly affect his confidence and consequently,his performance.
Fnally,I pick Floyd to win by decision.Good luck to both fighters!
I just dont think Mayweather has really fought anybody that is that good.Don’t get me wrong I think he is a very good fighter,but look at his record.Wins over Corrales who everyone ko’s,Zab Judah ,come on now Zab Judah ,Aturo Gatti boxing very own punching bag,and Carlos Baldomir,a no name fighter who’s only claim to fame is beating those two scrubs.The best fighter he has faced is Castillo and most people including me felt Castillo won the first fight,and Oscar is a much better fighter than Castillo even at this age.I just think Oscar has a good chance it wont be easy ,but alot of you might be suprised.Peace.
First off Larry is just annoying and never really makes sence when hes talking and he says some of the stupist things i wish he would leave HBO. Second , this is not going to be much a fight most of the people i see writing here are either lying or do not know a single thing about boxing who ever sits there and says Oscar is the best , or is going to kill Floyd , or is way to good it just out of there mind or lying for Oscar . Now im not saying Oscar cant win this fight cause he can but thats depending on Floyd. Floyd has said on occasion he would like to knock Oscar out , if Floyd dose make that mistake there is a good chance he himself can be knocked out . Oscar is the bigger fighter in all ways , but The class of boxer isnt even close , i like Oscar but he dosnt stand a chance . Even Oscar 10 years ago against Mayweather today still a mismatch , Mayweather is the best in the world today and the best since Sugar Ray Leanald . May fith Mayweather will put on a boxing clinc and its sad cause Oscar is going to be embarrassed . Floyd will win a easy decsion probly by like 6 or 7 rounds .
I think Mayweather is far to good for Oscar in all ways . Oscar is not even going stand a chance . Like he said unless Oscar can find a way to knock him out hes going to get worked probly lose every round . Mayweather is faster then Mosly , and moves around and jabs better then Hopkins so what dose Oscar think hes going to do , hes in it for the money and figures he will cash in and pass the torch and title . I can already here him , in his whiny little voice ” He was fast , but i was better tonight , the juges wernt fair ” boo whoo Oscar shut up and take your ass whooping . All these stupid people who only watch boxing when Oscars fights and dont even know whos is who say Oscar will win , study up and know that your boy is going to get killed , Floys might even be able to knock him out but i bet desction !!!
Max says Larry is annoying but we all know who runs the show on HBo so forget about that. He also says Oscar is not in the same level of Floyd, since Oscar has always been an A plus, should we suppose Floyd in super-human, lol… Then he says Floyd is the best since Leonard, good that he didn’t say Robinson but it’s all the same, Roy Jones was Superman, Galactic also until Tarver brought him back to sweet mother earth… On Collin callin everyone stupid and that Floyd will kill Oscar with pity patt punches shows itself who doesn’t know who is who!
Yes! Mayweather will win on May 5 because, he is gonna do the hit and run tactic. All i gotta say is that 2 fighters who talked smack before a fight got knocked the f*** out!! And i liked to add 1 fighter was on steriods during the fight. If your a real boxer you would know that going up just one weight class you lose a lot of punching power thats why mayweather could not hurt baldomir. In conclusion mayweather wins if he runs, and if chooses to go toe to toe who will definately lose.
I heard mayweather is doing alot of weight lifting to bulk up for oscar and i think it will make floyd’s upper-body movement and handspeed slower.Floyd is under-estimating oscar’s boxing ability,handspeed,experience and with all that i think oscar will suprise floyd with his ability’s.
This two guys has seen a very good fights before… but unforetunatly they have to do some most or some exciting fight on May 05.. for me oscar will defeat floyd for tko….
GOOD, BUT I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. I HOPE THAT THE WINNER GIVES A CHANCE TO ANTONIO MARGARITO. I DON’T THINK FLOYD HAS THE POWER TO HURT A NATURAL 154 POUNDER. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYS FLOYD IS THE BEST POUND FOR POUND. WELL IN ORDER TO BE THE BEST YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE BESTS. AS A WELTERWEIGHT HE DIN’T FIGHT THE BEST, JUDAH, BALDOMIR, COME ON, LET’S BE SERIOUS. THERE ARE SOME GOOD FIGHTERS IN THIS DIVISION, FAR BETTER THEN THESE TWO CARACTERS. FLOYD WILL BE RUNNING FOR 12 ROUNDS, IF BY ANY CHANCE HE STOPS RUNNING AND FACE OSCAR IN A BOXING MATCH, HE HAS NO CHANCE. BUT LIKE I SAID I HOPE TO SEE EITHER FIGHTER AGAINTS MARGARITO,COTTO,HATTON, OR THEY CAN PICK ON OPPONENTS THAT THEY CAN DEFEAT AND MAKE MORE MONEY.
yea he may be good and all but hed never make it in tha UFC
ok this is for franny aka the FRANSICO the dellusional dela hoya fanatic……….hey it’s ok your betting on DLH i mean he has the talent and has beatin some credible fighters but we are witnessing the emergence of a phenom……..1)gabe lost to gatti was on the downside of his career after he killed the poor guy in the ring he was never the same fighter see BOOM BOOM MANCINI….but i’m referring to prime gabe undefeated like DLH was he was avoided like the plague…..2) PBF didnt stand in front of baldomir……dude it’s called boxing hitting without being hit…..ah duh….and if you go back and watch the tape floyd never ran he turned his opponent clocked his opponent and turned him again…..look i understand the super machismo thang you got going for dela hoya and lesser opponents but did your golden one stand toe to toe with felix…hmmmmmmm you a lil quite there franny….3) as for sugar ray leonard…look there are plkenty of people he never fought i mean stayed completely away from like who you ask why sure i’ll be glad to answer….mike mccallum, donald curry, loyd honeygan, julian jackson,john the beast mugabi on his quest to reign supreme….4)FLOYD SWAGGA may offend you…but you must understand a fightrs mentality he must think he’s the greatest in order to preform at top level……..what he suppose to come in and say those before him was greater……history 101 ALI said he was greater than JOE LOUIS i dont hear you disputing that and JOE was a KO artist you see floyd’s swagga is well…like mine we are just good at what we do……..oh and 5) STOP HYPING MARAGITO as if…….please not with 4 loses to who???? i’ll tell you knowbodies……and his recent fight…nuff said he could barely beat a broke handed fighter……had that been floyd maragito would of been sleep….cotto is a real UP and coming talent but ready for floyd maybe in about 2 years…let’s just see if he get’s by ZAB ok……….now SUGAR SHANE is about the only call you was close to making right…good fight but loses a split why well in SSM last figt as good as he was you can see a slip in defense and a 2step slip in his once super blurring punch combo’s now if this was pre winky/forrest yeah i’d go with shane too…..but this aint that shane…but i pick shane to kick maragito @$$ i’ll pick cotto too, hell miranada, even allan green or paul williams who by the way maragito doesnt want to face……….so stop toutin him as if he’s even capable of beating floyd not even if floyd broke both hands and was blinded in one eye that would be a draw…….and come on bringing me to earth…..son i’m to heavenly too reach with my boxing knowledge i could be the boxing knowledge dalai lama or something like that……and DLH would’nt give strum the rematch because strum had his number now that strum aint so hot he’ll probally fight him after this loss to retire with at least a win by D on his resume…….6) and pitty pat punches come on man…..if a guy’s a sucker for a flurry he’s a sucker for a flurry…one of greatest boxer of all time in my opininon beat many fighters on pitty pat as you say Pernell whittaker……in the gym we call that just touch him here there everywhere without tiring yourself……ohhhhh and call it karma that oscar did beat trinidad in my opininon but was shafted the way sweet p beat him……what comes around really comes around…..oh by the way Whittaker only loss in my book back is truly to trinidad and that because the coke caught up to his sniffin @$$ but prior he faced everyone and was ripped off with the chavez and the other mexican that was booed by his country men for getting a gift against him……oh and the fluke comeback where he tore his rotator cuff..doesnt count he was already old…….if you need anymore education see the very 1st comment #1 it’s mine and it explains in detail all that you need to know but in case you dont wanna go that far back PRETTY BOY FLOYD UD
Alright, Mr. Noirnoticvibe, Franny answering right back at ya… You’ve given me food for thought but it’s incredible we’re arguing and both of us pick Floyd by UD. I guess it’s the fact that YOU, the guy who wrote the 1st message and the 106th, just are crackin up with this upcoming Showdown and I do understand, Pretty Boy and his people, Big L, Major Thugster Roger ( aka The Black Mamba) are all over da place with misplaced comments too, and they also claim do give everybody boxing lessons inside and out.
For numba 1 – Gabe Ruelas was a big dangerous puncher and a genuine 130 pounder but Hoya was a bigger, stronger and technically above him so what tells me Gabe wouldn’t suffer the same ending at dat stage just like Leija, Hernandez, Tyson or Paes by the hands of Hoya? Hoya was a lightweight and fought Ruelas who was IBF titlist and he suffered the same fate, 2nd round TKO courtesy of the left hook and finishing ability! Enough said 4 Gabe who came in to kill Gatti 2 and went against the wall, so sorry…
Numba 2 – Excuse my French, noir, but if u r comparing Floyd turning on Baldomir as Oscar fought toe 2 toe with Felix ( clearly the best under 160 mid-late 90s), u got serious sight problems, everybody ( including the media) boooed PBF 4 his performance and boooed the judges 4 Felix MD so we can’t be all wrong & u right or else u r some sort of boxing genius like Floyd and his G-unot crew roaming into night clubs…
Numba 3 – Everybody knows Sugar Ray Leonard is the deserving heir of Robinson’s sweet science & flashiness and if Floyd gets there 2, that would be after Roy Jones, Meldrick Taylor, SSM, not disregarding Pernell and Winky 4 defensive skill and slickiness… Leonard beat Hagler clearly coming off a 5 year lay off, Mugabi lost to Hagler and McCallum kayoed Jackson and Curry in another era, actually the same Leonard was caught by age and Norris at the same time.
Numba 4 – Oh, no, Floyd doesn’t offend me with his punk @$$ raps to promote the event… I know he’s a kid who is emotionally disturbed and doesn’t have father figures in cocaine smugglers ( addicts) Flyd Sr and Roger, probably Big L looks after him even when he makes a fool out of himself with fifty and 50 is not a bad m**** f***er in the West Coast, man, The Game, B-Real or Soul assassins are! Yeah, u r right, Joe was definitely bigger than Ali, Marciano and plenty of others!
Numba 5 – U know dat I know dat u know dat Floyd knows dat Margarito could beat him and dat he ran away, how’s dat 4 an answer? Cotto is right there at top level with Judah, Shane, Margarito, Williams and Cintron, whre’s the doubt? I don’t see a slip in SSM defense and he still has dat super blurring punch combo and is as fast as Floyd and that’s why I pick him to beat Floyd to the punch, Forrest and Winky are just different fighters he was not able to deal with… Oscar realized by now he’s not a middle so Sturm’s off and Mayweather will realize he’s not a light-middle, win, draw or lose.
6) Pitty pat Punches are not fighting resources at all, Boxing’s Dalai Lama! Pernell was a good strategy technician but didn’t hurt anybody and thus didn’t deserve the nod against Chavez, Tito did better against him than Hoya but both beat him, if u train in the gym like dat be prepared to go to sleep in the ring when u least expect to, if u can’t take it, get outa there and play karate, even Holly Holm fights more than PBF or Pernell!
Finally, I am not a ODH fanatic but he deserves the recognition and since u r not giving it 2 him just because Floyd is fighting him I am! Still pick Floyd by UD but tell u what, noirnoticvibe and all u 2 faced punks out there, I would luv to c him cry but not 4 winning, 4 being flat on the deck that is, dat would be a reality check, delusional me, I only luv myself, don’t give a f*** about Oscar or Floyd, baby
DUDE….i likes you….you really got your own swagga and as a swaggaologist yours rates 10 out of 10 so kudos too ya…..butta rum……..whaaaaaa? you had me going, almost second guess myself then you said some stupid @SS issshhhh pernell didnt hurt chavez so he should’nt of won…..tsk,tsk,tsk and here i thought you understood the art of boxing just because you dont hurt someone dosnt mean you should’nt win…What about if you OUT PUNCH THEM………chavez never got a good combo off on Sweet P but P was about to throw an uppercut changed his mind and hit him with a straight left and all chavez could do was take it…..yeah he took a good beating even his country men that night admitted that he lost…and if ya got the tapes even tho pernell got his @$$ handed too him by trinidad he created the way to beat him see the fight when pernelle doubled him over with body shoots…….AND MARAGITO is not the threat people keep toutin him to be….and no he can not beat floyd if they fought 100x floyd wins 100x’s if he so good why is he avoiding williams and why did he back out against cotto………now that was finally a big fight/payday and he did’nt want to get exposed…….and cintron is pretty much one dimensonal good power but rather predictable and lacked stamina…. you see when he loses too floyd he can cry “He RAN” and walk away with a check and his face, in front of people… knowing in the back of his mind he lost to the greatest fighter he’s ever faced……as for 50 not being big in the west coast…YES he is and his record sales prove that……the game…hahahahahaha aint that the same dude that was on the dating show and his girl played him stating “he wants everybody to think he’s hard but he’s not”…wow a blow to the ego……look we aint gonna go east coast west coast are we…….because the greatest rapper of all time which by the way is from NEW YORK and still alive said “IT AINT WHERE YOU FROM IT”S WHERE YOU AT” and incase you dont know it’s RAKIM……oh KRS1 also……these dudes 50 and game are both wack to me…all the say is the same crap how many hoes they had/how much drugs they move/blood this crip that……but they cant flow with a common or a mos def or the roots crew…….oh by the way check out this underground group in cali called the Company now these cats are underground truth….ohhh i like your pharcyde those cat’s was hot…..but back to the fight game….as for the leonard thing yeah i agree he beat hagler because hagler spent to much time trying to intimidate sugar and he (sugar) just flurried combo’s by the way THAT DID’NT HURT HAGLER…but you agreed he won double standards are not nice…you play fair mister……or no more boxing for you……..and as for winky and forrest yes styles makes fight and people who fight tall and have decent pop on their punch can negate sugar’s speed and offense….as for TERRIBLE TERRY NORRIS and leonard….i love norris…because he had a suspect chin and he still fought ya like WHAT! yeah leonard aged but before he aged a young mike mccallum was available so was julian, marlon starlin,who leonard could of fought but choose not too and they called him out on a regular instead he fought donnie ledond and a used up roberto duran who by this time was fat enough to play sherman klump…now i put pernell ahead of floyd but floyd is ahead of meldrick taylor and as for roy he got old…..and now he’s gun shy….he could of beatin tarver in fight3 but was apprehensive gerrald mccellan still lingers in his mind…..i rate roy ahead of him also because of accomplishments against who’s who…but roy got the he did’nt knock the guy out blues too…..and rarely did he stand in front of you either, thus why a longer career…..i still think he could beat calzaghe tho…SD only because of inactivity…ummm the people were’nt really booing mayweather the was booing the fact that baldomir could’nt produce so it became boring…..but not floyd in direct…but i’m sure there was some floyd haters there booing floyd…also emmanuel the overrated trainer steward is a pretty boy hater because floyd does everything the way he wishes his fighter to fight…and larry”i hate everybody”merchant is just a heter period…cant blame him he saw sugar robinson fight…i’d boo too if i say his greatness..oh and if ya need to check out good old fights see YOUTUBE.TV a must have….
p.s. franny baby i am also giving the greatest advice about may 5th on 1)9)71)93)106……..holla at’cha boi…GGGGGGG G-UNIT…ok i’ll stop that
Noir, this can’t be all about you and me but since you want to descredit me along with Hall of Famer Larry Merchant, Manny Steward, all welters but Shane, Floyd and Cotto and ( I almost forgot), you have a problem with mexican ascendance west coasters like ODH, I want to put my foot on your mouth, yeah, cause you deserve it! Nothing personal, bro but dat is a whole lot of bull u r putting on da board 4 God’sake?! Of course, Pernell shouldn’t have won in San Antonio cos he didn’t do anything, man, think twice, the guy soft jabs in dat awkward stance of his, turns, slides and gets away, Chavez had a frustrating night cos the guy wouldn’t fight and dat counts yo know? ( effective aggressiveness, clean punching???), not just defence and sum thang called ringside generalship ( what the hell is dat?) so I am not sayin Pernell was not good but he didn’t win against Oscar making funny faces, avoiding punches and makin him outa balance!!! Pernell is Hall of Famer just like Willie Pep and that’s it! Taylor did a much better job at Chavez though… Of course u gotta hurt ur opponent otherwise u don’t get his respect and he walks all ova , steamrolls ya… The reason Baldomir didn’t do dat is cause he respected Floyd too much and had no defense 4 flurries, worst fight in welter history, God Damn it! Even Forrest takes Baldomir next on the undercard of Spinks Taylor. Both Baldomir and Judah pick Oscar 2 win, why’s dat?… Cause Floyd doesn’t have punching power at 147 and neither does he have a chance to trade with DLH at 154, he’s a lightweight or a natural super-feather, his wiry frame can’t put on more weight without losing something in agility, footwork and handspeed and if he loses dat, where’s he at? Quite frankly speaking…
Margarito is very dangerous cos he sneaks right in and rips the body with crossed shots, dat hurts, he’s big and sharp, I have no luv affair 4 him but if he knocked the f*** out broad shoulders puncher in Cintron, how can you say Floyd would beat him dat easy? He would run and pick points here and there just like he would do against Cotto, Williams and any other strong welter, sh**!
I only mentioned 50 cause he’s promoting himself with Floyd and the other way aroundin HBO’s 24/7 just like Nelly and Spinks in St. Louis, I don’t like G-Unit and the Game is all about da West Coast Hood gangsta stuff, Compton, L.A., you tube don’t mean s***, he was just tryin to get dat @§§ like most of us, I like him, Cypress Hill, Soul Assassins, Snoop, enough with hip hop beefs, whateva…
I am not double standard, Ray hit and hurt Hagler and Hagler just came in cos he was tough as stone, not like Floyd pitty pat or Whitaker playin defense all boring night long, I love Norris, he’s cool but McCallum and “The Hawk” were not in the pic when Ray took Lalonde for a classic and Duran 4 a rubber match ( “fatso” Duran beat the sh** outa much taller “Blade” Barkley in 89, Panama city, baby), super-welter Starling fought middle Nunn and Dundee was in Nunn’s corner, Ray fought Hearns at super-middle with Dundee by his side too and Hearns beat Hill afterwards at light heavy so, so, so stop the nonsense pleaz, will u?…
Roy was wise not to repeat McLelland in the Tarver rubber, actually Roy was what Floyd is now with the exception for PBF doesn’t punch, Roy is said to take Jermain soon but Joey would beat them both for punchin ability and handspeed, above all those is Hopkins. I agree Pernell in front of Floyd and Mayweather in front of Taylor though but dat is the only thing senseful u said thus far, Noir, u r too deep into this and can’t analyze this one…G-Unit, Shady Aftermath I’m the Game and
(I can take you hiyaaaah)
im not saying who will win i just wanna say that i hate runners. this is boxing not a track meet. If mayweather wants to win fans he will fight. Mayweather says he will stand toe to toe with delahoya, but when he feels delahoya’s power he will run like the last fight against baldomir which will leave a very dry fight. There was a comment saying that whats boxing is “hit and not get hit” True but its called dodging, ducking, slipping punches; Its not technical when you run.
I respected Mayweather until he fought Baldomir. He couldnt hurt him so he turned it into a track meet, and you cant tell me that it was an enjoyable fight. It would have been enjoyable he would just stand and fight. He should just stick to his weight division so the fights would be more exciting. He should’ve fought Ricky Hatton, but now I hope delahoya doesnt knock him out, I want delahoya to punish him.
I have so much respect for both fighters. I think this fight can go either way. You know the laws of physics, the bigger you are, the slower you “might” be. The fact that F.M. jr has to go up in weight means that he will increase in punching power and at the same time this will slow him a little bit, which is to the advantage of ODH. However, he might still be slick as we all know him, but if ODH capitalizes on the speed-compromise, then we have an equilibrium of power and speed.
On the other hand, ODH has become more of a senior and we alll know of his timidness when fighting fighters of best repute, he might fail to perform as anticipated. I still thnk he is a good boxer and can still use his left hook with precision and power….but then we know F.M. jr has pretty good chin and possibly can shake it off.
I don’t like F.M. jr’s cocky attitude, but then boxing is about getting into opponents’ nerves. History shows that he can back up his retorics…so like it or not, he has proved to be a phenomenal boxer.
Hey bookmakers, put your bucks on this dude. You might not like him, but you will get your money back!!!
>>>>happy watching
1 – Boxing Digest March 2007 on the weight matter:
“…If his speed proves far superior, Mayweather could go for the KO finish that most handicappers feel is unlikely. Look for the unconventional Mayweather to attempt the unexpected… It seems De La Hoya, with only an inch of listed reach advantage, wants to slug it out immediately. His best chance may be to roar out and hope the price he pays coming isn’t too steep, build an early lead and basically run down the clock… “I have to mug him. My biggest concern is my footwork. I have to cutt off the ring, make sure that every move he makes, I’m right there on his face with a controlled distance, I mean, I don’t want to smother the guy. That’s a mistake a lot of fighters make with him because he has that sneaky defense. The way you break through that defense is get your distance and pick your shots. I mean, double and triple left hooks are really gonna be the key. And the jab”, De La Hoya repeated… De La Hoya probably has an equal chance at victory, but remember, it’s usually Floyd who conducts the boxing clinic, inconsequential of weight.
2 – Genaro Hernandez ( retired with a record of 38-2-1, the two losses to De La Hoya September 1995 at 135 pounds ( 6th round TKO) and to Mayweather in October 1998 at 130 pounds ( 8th round TKO)) on the same weight matter, The Ring, June 2007:
“”I don’t believe that Oscar being supposedly bigger than Floyd, because he’s been fighting at that weight longer, will make any difference… Floyd is a lot faster than De La Hoya is and Oscar is going to find it difficult to hit him with a solid shot… Oscar has trouble with guys who are as fast as he is or faster. A lot of good people think Oscar looked good against Mayorga, but he was in there with a streetfighter who throws wide, looping punches. Of course Oscar is going to look good against him. If he thinks he’s going to look as good against Mayweather, he should think again ” he said. “Floyd spars with light heavyweights in the gym and they can’t hit him. You can’t hurt what you can’t hit, and if Oscar can’t hit Floyd, he can’t hurt him,” Hernandez says, too, that many people don’t understand that when a fighter moves up in weight, his body adjusts to taking punishment from bigger, stronger fighters, so if he trains right-against the right guys-size shouldn’t matter… “My brother [trainer Rudy Hernandez] told me I got stung with a right by Mayweather, but I know got stunned with an uppercut by Oscar…I don’t see either of them as big punchers. They are both quick and throw good combinations, and that’s where the damage comes from… Oscar has to try to time Floyd when Floyd jumps in with that right hand. But it’ll be hard because Floyd is so quick… Floyd Mayweather is a hell of a counterpuncher. If you watch him work on the pads with his trainer, you see that he’s working on counterpunching. And all of his sparring partners rush him”…Hernandez knows whom he likes, and don’t hesitate: “Mayweather by decision.” The guy is no politician.”
I was not about to go toe 2 toe with noir but since he gives no respect to Hall of Famers Larry Merchant, Manny Steward, legends Ray Leonard and J.C. Chavez and welters Margarito, Cintron just to praise Floyd Mayweather, Pernell Whitaker and himself, let me tell you what… Pernell Whitaker fight with Chavez may be compared to Mayweather’s with Baldomir, both guys soft jab the man coming in, once in a while throw a sneaky right/left shot and when they can’t stop him comin, they get away, slide and start acting, they say they “outbox” em, sh**… they simply ran and get booed fairly by the crowd. Ray Leonard masterfully outpunched and HURT Hagler who was tough enough to cum forward still, dat is all there is 2 it ( no double standards here), completely different thing! Young fighters out there, make sure u get ur man hurt or else he will not respect ya all night long and afterwards too! Ray Leonard didn’t fight young McCallum and Jackson at light-middle cause he had classics with Lalonde, Duran ( who beat Barkley and was in shape), Hearns ( who would beat Hill at light-heavy) instead… Ray is a natural heir of Robinson, both Pernell and PBF r slick, smart and good defensive fighters, that’s all, all of them r flashy along with SSM, Meldrick Taylor, Roy Jones but dat doesn’t make ya an all time great PERIOD.
Oscar is a seasoned classy fighter and will not come in stiff against PBF like Baldomir did, he will feint, jab and hook out of the jab, I don’t know if he can body punch but it’s not gonna be another shut out 4 Floyd, no way, at least the way Floyd avoids physical confrontations… Margarito would do better than Oscar but that’s another story, Floyd is definitely afraid of him and wouldn’t cash in like in this one.
DAMN francisco you’s a sensitive cat…..1)dont put words in my mouth…where in any of my comments do you here me disrespect the great J.C. CHAVEZ no where… that man is a credit to the sport….and he never ducked anyone even when he was sliding because of age…2)i dont like mexican fighters? there you go again putting words in my mouth….for me it aint your race it’s your skill…unless you british….but that’s another story…actualy from what i read your the one with the mexican thing…i said floyd would beat oscar who by the way wasnt getting mexican/cali love except from the ladies up until 2 years ago….it was all about vargas, chavez, or whoever…man up here in the bronx it’s a real mixed community no one race dominates so my brothers from puerto rico no what’s good just as my african, or italian it’s about skill…that’s been my whole topic…and i actually thought i gave you a compliment on yo swagga…but if you cant see that then dude you need to reread my words and not put things in my mouth i didnt say….3)where did you read me dis larry merchant i said “if you saw sugar ray robinson fight to you wouldnt be impressed with today’s fighters either”…..damn read slow next time and yes he is cynical that’s his angle that’s his journalist approach to motivating up and comer’s…..and no i dont like emanuelle but with good reason MY OWN….just because you dont agree with me i dont care….most of what i said is in humor…once again reread slow…i thought you would appreciate going back and forth with boxing debates not get all huff and puff serious take adeep breath and exhale…4) no respect for ray leonard? what r u doin acid…i said there are fighters he avoided and it’s the truth…..mccallum,jackson,starlin,and a few others he elected to fight people like donny,and get beat and ko’d by camacho….who got beat by trinidad,de la hoya, and chavez……i know my boxing history son……5)my favorite fighter had a weak chin but i still loved him wether he won or lost…terry norris…i just call it how i see it…when he lost to simon brown in their 1st fight i blasted him on not fighting smart but still supported him…and still a fan when he lost to dana roseblatt….DURAN GOT FAT…yeah he beat iran the blade…it was a good fight Duran mastered that style before barkley was a teenager and toe to toe is duran’s thing….now you gong toe to toe wit me that’s what i’m talking about….you all serious like oscar’s your brother…calm that down dude..and MARAGITO is WACK he is avoiding williams…he better not think about cotto…and yeah baldomir and zab would pick dela hoya because they dont like him!!!!! just like you…if floyd was fighting cotto you’d go with cotto…if it was williams you’d go with williams…why not because of skill but because you dont like him…..everyone was betting corrales was going to be the one to do it he was undefeated at the time mr.ko himself got hurt outboxed and thanks to a caring father rescued from further humilation….this guy was the taller fighter, the bigger puncher, the rangier, and he had all these ko’s to back his record….now you disrespect him by saying he’s getting knocked out by everyone…..but before evryone it took floyd to do it…..and soft jabs….brahh listen boxing means hitting WITHOUT being hit..so you mightas well just say SWEET P, he didnt hurt those others guy’s he fought so he shouldnt of won any of those fights….he fought the great professor azuma neson and beat him boxing wise…he hit him moved him slowed him down now azuma was a ko artist ask jeff fenech….he should of just rolled thru sweet p since he could’nt hurt him….but sweet p knew how to HIT WITHOUT being HIT and racked up on points…as for cintron i said it then and i say it now he’s to mechanical and his stamina is iffy…..but great punching power from a distance…i said OSCAR DE LA HOYA has been a credit to the sport…then i saisd in an @$$ kissin kind of way because i know how he can act outside of the camerea’s let’s not forget his ever so racial comment “NO BLACK FIGHTER CAN TAKE MY BODY SHOTS”…did i ever mention that oh and if you thinks i am making that up do your homework and research…….oscar’s p.r. people tried to explian it as a misinterpitation of his mexican accent…nah brah..(he speaks so well) so please dont ever come out yo face wit the i dont like mexican fighters thang…..VARGAS is still one of my favorites even wit the loses i dont give up loyality to loses…check yo self….oh and i was saying youtube.tv has old fights if you wanna check anything you missed but yo dumb @$$ took it another way…as for compton gangsta….look man aint nothin good about being a gangsta cause you only kill what’s in your hood….people who look like you and whens the last time you saw game walking down the streets of compton or cypress hill….last i heard they are living swell on the outskirts of LA….and as fo game man like i said he and 50 are both wack in my eye’s cause they aint really saying anything positive like common or mos def…like you said enuff with the rap crap…..to sum it all up….i thought you could joke, you crack on floyd i on dela hoya but in the fun of things…..you all touchy and emotional…peace out!!!!
Let me start by saying i like both fighters. Floyd is truly a master at the stick and move and Oscar is a well seasoned vet but i think alot of people are looking a this fight from there own emotions and who they want to win the fight instead of the the real picture. The real picture and reality is either man can win this fight almost equally, although i give a slight edge to Oscar. For one thing, nobody Floyd has fought can be compared to Oscar. None of them has the skill, power or even the speed and knowledge that Oscar has. Oscar on the other hand has experience with floyd type fighters, in particular Whitaker, Mosley..twice, Hopkins, and even Quartey. Whitaker was just as fast and slick as Floyd. People say Oscar lost that fight but it was actually a very close fight and could have gone either way. Hopkins, also is very illusive and has good speed and foot work along with deceptive power. Mosley may be just as fast as Floyd but he fights different so it does not seem so. OK true Floyd is faster than Oscar and people are saying he is to fast for Oscar but Oscar should have won that second Mosley fight and Mosley is just as fast as Floyd but he also has power. Again Floyd is faster but Oscar makes up with skill! Floyd does not have the skill Oscar has. Yall must be thinking im crazy for saying that but there is a difference. I put it this way; Floyd has natural ability, speed, excellent reflexes, speedy foot work but its all natural and it will leave him after awhile. Oscar is already loosing his natural ability. He is not as fast as he use to be and his reflexes are also slowing but he has the skill to carry him. When Floyds natural ability is gone, his career is done. Not saying Floyd dont have skill, he just dont have as much skill as Oscar. But people dont realize how fast Oscar still is and Lets not talk about power. Remember, Mayorga is a guy who let fighters re-off free wide open punchs to the face and then knock the guy out. Oscar dropped Mayorga with one shot and the look on Mayorgas face said it all… Oscar punches HAAARRRDDDD. Floyd will not be able to take those punches and if Oscar brings his left BAM hook along with his right cross dont be suprised if Floyd dont go down in the first round(if punch output is up). Floyd can go the whole fight without taking a major shot(he is that illusive)but if he does take one.. we will have to see how he reponds. Floyd has be hurt before but he hides it very well and recovers fast. Will he be able to recover from a Oscar punch.. i dont think so. Floyd never felt a punch like Oscars and i dont think Oscar would be the one he wants to show him how it feels for the very first time. I think the strategy would be for Floyd to pick Oscar until the later rounds where we all know Oscar seems to tyre. If Floyd can do that it is his fight. For OScar to win he has to get to Floyd early and pressure him. Castillo should have been given that first fight with Floyd and what he did was pressure Floyd. The best way to overcome a speedy component is pump a double jab and work the body, both of which Oscar already has in his arsonal. One think that will defenitely give Floyd this fight is if Oscar gets Floyd on the ropes and tries to flury hoping to end the fight but he doesnt, instead Oscar tyres out… then it will be easy pickings for Floyd the rest of the fight. IF OScar counters Floyd with a left hook off of a right lead or catches Floyd with his left hand low with a right cross it could be GOOD NIGHT Floyd. But i do think Floyd is fast enough to avoid it and thats all he has to do to win the fight. Again i like both fighters. I think it will ultimately come down to timing. Who evers timing is best come May 5th has the better chance of winning although Oscar do have more deadly weapons. O and uhh Floyd maybe alittle rattled in the nerves… bringing his father in after all the years of bitterness says alot! One more very important detail.. Oscar is brilliant.. He choose a Mexican holiday for the fight and he chose punchers gloves which means Floyd may hurt his hands again!
Noir, I know u r jokin just like Mayweather was when he was kinda laffin when he said Larry didn’t know nothing about boxing Baldomir’s post-interview and I do get ur sense of humour… But let me tell you quite frankly this is all ethnical and Tribal, same thing with Hopkins-Tito, Holmes-Cooney, Sweet P(or Pee, Pea)-Chavez, it always is… Doesn’t bother me, I luv everything which is interracial ( get it?), anyway, I do luv Mayweather and remember I pick him on this one but only 4 one reason; i want him 2 fight Sugar just like u in the 1st comment on da Board… I don’t particularly like gangstas but if u r not one , why do u pretend 2 be one? Dat is what Floyd is doin, he’s not a bad m**** f***** so what’s the point? The guy is cracking up, Floyd Sr left the camp as swiftly as he came in and Ishe Smith is a spy now 4 ODH, serious schizo paranoid symptom!!! Luv & Peace
let the winner fight paul williams who will beat margarito. no one wants to fight williams , who has a 83 inch reach , is a left handed power puncher , comes in at 6 ft 2 in , with hand speed. paul williams is a very patient boxer , undefeated , 32-0 , with 24 ko’s . he is , pound for pound , the # 1 fighter in the world. he is the real deal. the fact is , why is it that mayweather refused to fight williams and instead ran and hid so as to fight de la hoya???? mark your calender for july 14.
Hi every one, I’m gonna answer the guy that say why DLH doesn’t fight trinidad obviosly he doesn’t know why… Because trinidad is to afraid, because he won that figth, and because he is a chicken, and what kind of mexicano are you? mexicanos we go with mexicanos, sorry if oscar is to cute for you….
GO OSCAR……
ummmm…. for all you people who talk nothing other than how fast floyd is and well he moves around the ring… keep in mind two fights…. jones vs tarver 1 and 2… tarver was robbed the 1st fight and jones saw the birds the second…now who was faster and better.. and tarver is a straight bumb
Just to show Noir I am not bias or an Oscar fan, let me reply to Doggy’s now… Doggy has some excellent points like when he says Oscar may get bone tired if he tries to finish Floyd on the ropes and then pay the price, but I clearly disagree with the natural ability point, boxing ability has everything to do with physical conditioning to back it up, no way you can beat someone to the punch ( and that is what Teddy Atlas and other like Doggy mean by timing) if you are not faster, have the better reflexes and if ur body doesn’t answer quickly to ur mind ( smarter and more box know-how-experience) you never gonna be first… I believe Floyd has know how and talent, Oscar never lost it, the question is how their styles will match up and who wants it the most. See, you can double jab and never hit clean, clinch and buy time, eventually you can get tagged by a fast counter sneaky right in the process too… If Oscar doesn’t have physical conditioning for a fast pace in there, he doesn’t even have a puncher’s chance cause he will not keep it up for 12 by 3 min rounds… And remember, he out-smarted Mosley the 2nd time but he saved his engine pretty much compared to the 1st fight, what happens if he cannot slow the pace down without losing rounds now?
prett boy will not be pretty anymore after this fight. this is the true test for him… fighting someone like oscar. if pacman pacquiao and pretty boy have the same weight, pretty boy will be flying out of the ring with the pacman punch! he might even be eatin alive! hahaha!
Fransisco, how can you disagree when you just said the same thing i said.. just in a different way. I said Oscar dont have the stamina and I also said Floyd has skill.. plenty of it! What i meant was that Floyd has more natural ability along with better conditioning in that he is faster, has better reflexes and foot work all of which cant be tought. But Floyds skill is rolling his shoulders which doesnt necessarily depend on his natural ability. Oscar has more skill in that he has lost some speed(but still by no means slow) and has to more consiously choose his punches and block instead of naturally being able hit and move as Floyd does. Again, i take JOnes as an example. Jones had all the natural ability in the world but age came along and he lost some of his reflexes thats why he got caught by tarver. With that, Jones starved his natural ability because he stop letting his hands go because he is scared to get hit which means his natural ability is gone. Jones always fought with natural ability and he will never be the same. Floyd might turn out the same way when his natural ability leaves him. Oscar can fight on cause he has skill. Point from my original statement is; people loose natural ability but not skill and if Oscar can nuturalize Floyds natural ability by hitting him with something he never felt before and body punishment Oscar wil win the fight because Floyds does not have the skill to over come the lost of his natural ability.
From my last comment let me add that Floyd can also neuturalize Oscars skill by frustrating him causing him to loose his composure. With that being said… Fransisco, i completly agree with you and your comment about Floyd pitty patting tactics. OK so the golden rule hit and not be hit but its also boxing a head to head compitition. If i were a judge i would would never give a fight to a man who throws a few anoiyance punchs because his competitor got to close then stay away and throw another get away from me flurry because he got to close again. What makes it worse is that this is coming from a multidivision champ who claims to be the best! If your a champ and the best then fight like it.. put the champ spirit into it. Dont just touch and run with no means other than trying to create some distance. Its a diferent story if your hitting a guy and doing some damage some how and then you move and get out the way with out getting hit. The same goes for a power puncher.. I would never give a fight to a guy who becomes aggressive a start throwing bombs in the last ten seconds of each round as was the case in the Taylor Hopkins fights.
I am not about to disrespect most experts but they give a slight smell of political intrigue… Why does Yoel Judah pick Oscar on TKO in the 9th and Lou Di Bella foresees an undeserved judges gift to Mayweather? In my own view, these predictions are pre-fight machinations themselves!
Now, Doggy, I have watched again most Floyd’s and Oscar’s fights and nothing, absolutely nothing gives me the indication the fight goes that way, even against Trinidad, Hoya never ran, boxed him side to side, hit Tito clean most of times and coloured the Puerto Rican’s white trunks red already at mid-stage but chose to get away from danger zone in the last 9 minutes and lost the fight… I guess a boxing prediction cannot be based on sixth sense, intuition, dreams or gypsies fortune-telling… And I also don’t buy that TIMING definition Teddy Atlas or you talk about, you beat your opponent to the punch if you have superior reflexes and handspeed, how can Oscar be first and antecipate Floyd’s movement if we all know there is a huge gap in fistic fluidity here? As soon as Oscar is focusing on a classic left jab, Floyd will be popping him to the body and getting off. I can only see Oscar breaking Floyd’s punches with one big differential in punching power if that comes out to be the case ( put a big question mark there) and if Oscar doesn’t hit thin air often ( under 20% connect rate in power punches), that would give him a decision… Knockout by ODH is out of the question for me, Floyd will definitely be able to take his punch… Now, Roy Jones was pretty active in the second Tarver fight ( 1st round) but in the 2nd round he moved counter clockwise and was caught by Tarver’s long left hook out of southpaw stance and which was tangled in between his arms defense and connected solid to the jaw, it’s a completely different thing… Skill and Natural Ability mean the same to me too, nothing tells me Oscar is more skilful than Floyd and if you put those age, recent activity or inactivity, conditioning into play, the balance clearly goes in Mayweather’s way ( Oscar was 168 pounds one mouth ago and as recent as last week still 158, Floyd always at 150, 152, within the limit)
I find it funny how many Oscar fans really don’t have a true reson why he will win. Everyone keeps talking about his left hook…If you are counting on a single punch to connect and knock Floyd out then don’t waste your money buying the fight…You Oscar fans don’t have a leg to stand on. Say what you want about Floyd and his attitude. We have all seen what happens when oscar fights boxers with Floyds style. Throwing that left hook is only going to open him up to many flurries of counter punches. The left hook is going to be few when he takes those rib shots everytime he throws it. Floyd will punish Oscar….If you disagree please just come with valid resons why Oscar will win not just “He’s so cute”, “He’s the golden boy” or “ViVA la Mexico!!”.
Replyin to “What the”… I find one un-gentleman conduct to take a crack at Ladies or at pro-Mexican supporters, actually it’s simply down right stupid… But even though I am not inside DLH’s strategy, I can’t believe he would take such a fight and horrendous punk-ass comments to lay down and pass the torch to PBF… Floyd has dealt with Derrel Colley, Oba Carr and even Shane Mosley in one view and that was not based on one punch… Sweet Pea made him whiff with every punch of a potentially deadly eight-punch combination at the close of the 4th but still never implemented his own offense so he lost… Oscar has an arsenal of punching combinations to deal with slick smaller opponents but IF HE WINS and I am not sayin he will, that will be because he will time Floyd with a stiff jab as PBF is coming in, breaks his offense inside with stronger punches and catches him often enough at long range to set his game plan off and make him fight… We all know who’s the stronger man if it comes down to fighting. Period.
Fransisco… you abviously are not reading my comments.. and again you are only saying the same things i said.. I never said Oscar will beat Floyd to the punch.. in fact i said that along with conditioning is Floyds biggest strenghths. What i said was Oscar can neutralize Floyds strengths by punishing him in the body. We all know even with Floyds conditioning if Oscar hits him in his boney a** body Floyd is going to feel it and it will take a toll… but the same as you and i said Fransisco, Oscar has to hit him, which is the hard part. In response to What The, I said either man can win this fight almost evenly(read my first comment). But the same people keep talkin about Oscars left hook, all Floyds fans talk about is his speed as if Oscar is slow, come on. Weather Oscar wins or loose you will see the difference between how fast Oscar is and the previous fighters that Floyd fought. Like i said i think this fight will come down to timing.
Well,yeh we all know who got the upper hand weatherfield just the fact that his dad did train oscar and theres no doubt bout that but just the fact that oscar is being trained by some other trainer that he knows can do a good job but wont be the saame,other than that OSCAR should KO Mayweather!!! end of story got my 3 screens set up and ready for a nice entertainment……let them box and no more comment should be said …..
Doggy, I am reading ur comments, bro, and I agree Oscar is not that disadvantaged in the speed Dep., just that he is a sucker 4 a over-hand right and a short left hook at close range, Shane proved dat Staples Ct, LA, CA, Jun 2000, but both had to challenge each other, open up, dig deep and do sum soul searchin… The stiff left would be the key to tighten the back of the xtremely mobile tarsus of lil Floyd… If his plan goes wrong, don’t expect him to trade, we r talkin about a two faced guy who was thinkin about this ever since he was fighting comin backwards against one Victoriano Sosa at Fresno, CA, was applauding on his feet and in front row Oscar last May 5th against Mayorga and now that he got what he wanted, makes fun and says Oscar ain’t gonna do sh*** ( Big Apple presser), uses and steps aside his own father and has fans who say DLH never fought anyone, lol… DLH gave a shot at Mosley when he didn’t need to twice, fought toe 2 toe Tito and never backed straight up against B-Hop… I don’t deslike Floyd personally but he’s definitely behind Oscar, Shane, Tito, B-Hop and maybe even Sweet Pea and in this era!
i been keepin up wit this and and ya all rite…oscar is a monster but floyd is a beast..lets not take that away from him…but im a de la hoya man…i really wish he takes it home.. but we all kno that this is a sport where anyone can be bought….floyd is favord to win this one..and i hate to say it but i think its in the bag for flyd!!
I don’t think the LV Judges will favor Floyd but please don’t bring Chuck Giampa, Paul Smith ( both gave Floyd every single round against Baldomir – 120-108 to Mayweather) or Doug Tucker ( only found two rounds to Barrera in March, scored 118-109 to Marquez) and also don’t bring Jay Nady, Floyd abuses sticking that left forearm on the neck of opponents and Nady never took a point from him, warns, warns and forgets about it!
I’m a huge fan of boxing and have followed all fight my idol has always been Felix Trinidad. Like De la hoja duck from trinidad for two years before finally giving the fight. Now how does the champion think he going to win be running around the ring in fear. Poeople say about floyd running “no ” he boxes DLH RUNNNNS. by far PBF is a better faster and stronger fighter. I have never respected Oscar as a fighter I respect him as a human but thats about it. Put your feria on PBF IF YOU HAVE COMMON SENSE ALRATO. the big “o”.
Anyone who says that they do not respect Oscar as a fighter doesn’t know the first thing about boxing! One thing is for sure(a fact)- Oscar no matter what, always fought the #1 or #2 contender. He never just took a fight with a #8 ranked opponent for show. If he did that he would be 38-0 as well! Everyone talks about Mayweather winning in four different weight classes. Didn’t Oscar win in five! Grow up and learn the boxing game- Oscar doesn’t run!! If he ran he wouldn’t of taken the fight with PBF, Hopkins, Mosley, Trinadad! PBF is a defensive fighter with speed. He will not go straight after DLH, he wants all his opponents to come after him. De La Hoya is too smart and is a far better boxer than people are giving him credit for!! Once PBF get a nice left hook and feels DLH stronger- he will get nervous. De La Hoya in a 8th round knockout!!
Mayweather is arguably the best boxer today and perhaps is one of the best fighters that have ever graced the ring. His arrogance and demeanor apparently does not facilitate this debate, however, nor does it take anything away from his boxing ability. Although he may not win the People’s Choice Award for electrifying, head to head bouts, his showcase of defense, agility, and stamina is a pure spectacle. One can dispute that he has never been challenged by someone in the same league as him. Has he? Not really. Semi-notables could be Castillo, Baldomir, Judah. The Gatti match was simply a PPV boxing exemplary. Furtively allowing clichéd marketing hype and a one-sided match that makes everyone a winner, even entertained fans at the end of the match. Now, will Oscar finally fit the bill as a “note-worthy” opponent for Floyd?
Oscar’s illustrious career and repute has renowned him to be a legendary icon of today’s boxing. In theory, he will be nothing like Floyd has ever fought before. He is my idea of a token boxer and possesses all of the attributes that yields an awesome fighter. Although well-seasoned, Oscar’s prime is well past him now and because of that, it will determine the outcome of this fight. Unlike Floyd, Oscar’s had his share of arduous opponents. So it brings us to our next question.
Which fighter is hungrier? At the end of the day, both will have pockets fatter than they can contain. Oscar doesn’t have much to prove but to perhaps just complement his already well distinguished career. (More than likely his final fight) It’s like Jordan winning a championship with the Wizards after returning from retirement. Flyd, on the other hand, has been literally crying for recognition. Some boxing enthusiasts like my self and the likes of half of you here will recognize him for the fighter that he is. But it’s probably not enough for Floyd. Not for a boxer who regards himself as the parallel to Sugar Ray Robinson. I know it wouldn’t be enough for me.
With that said, I believe our dear friend Larry Merchant said it best when he said – “there is no room for perfection in boxing”. Floyd is certainly not perfect, but neither is Oscar.
For Mayweather UD.
Yous guys made some good comments, and Marco, I agree with you especially when you talk about Floyd feeling Oscars power. Floyd will start to, i will say “stay away” or run. That brings up the point of judging which F Lobo touched on. This fight has so much anticipation,money, and expectaions involved if Floyd starts “running” it will make for a boring fight which the judges may find offending amd a waste of hype. So even if Floyd beat Oscar on points he still may loose the fight.
Oh and uhh Marco… Floyd is already nervous just on the fact that after all the years of hate between him and his father and even after his father anitially said Oscar is going to KO Floyd, Floyd still try to bring him in for an extra edge.
AS A CANCER SURVIVOR. I LIKE OSCAR’S MOM BELIEVES… HE “CAN FIGHT”, HE “CAN WIN” AND HE ” CAN BEAT” THIS DISEASE” (REFERRING TO MAYWEATHER). YOU CAN EITHER FIGHT OR BAD MOUTH SOMEONE TO DEATH. SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THE SPORT & YOURSELF. BOXING GOES ON IN THE RING. ACT LIKE A PROFESSIONAL. MY UNCLE WAS A HALL OF FAME BOXER IN THE 40′S. HE NEVER TREATED HIS OPPONENTS WITH RESPECT & WAITED UNTIL THE BELL RANG & THEN SAID, MAY THE BEST MAN WIN. TODAY, IT’S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. SHOW SOME PRIDE IN WHAT YOU DO AS OSCAR DOES. IF YOU GET BEAT, THE THAT’S THE NAME OF THE GAME, BUT BE HUMBLE & GIVE IT ALL YOU GOT IN THE RING & FIGHT TO THE END. LOTS OF LUCK & PRAYERS TO OSCAR WHO IS NOT AFRAID TO FIGHT. HE WILL BE PREPARED.GIVE ‘EM HELL, OSCAR. WE WILL BE BY YOUR SIDE ON SATURDAY. BUENA SUERTE!
W L Jee developed a very highly constructed speech, given Floyd and Hoya the well deserved props and recognition some just disregard to do, put realistically some past fights on retrospective but finished the elaborated written exercise the same way he started with, Mayweather is the best of our time and his hunger should be enough to beat Hoya who is said to be well past his prime and has been in way too many wars ( or too weary of these)… I am one to consider Hoya, Trinidad and Jones the three most notable fighters of the mid-late 90’s and if I had to pick one or two more, other than the hwts, it would be Shane, Hopkins and then Mayweather… Rate him on the same level of Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Arguello, Pryor, Chavez or even further back, of Robinson, Basillio, Zale and Monzon just brings me more apprehension rather than disbelief towards Floyd’s admirers.
Oscar’s past won’t make him a winner but Shirly was more than honest to mention the past probably tells us what he might do the day after tomorrow, that is to give his best and if that made very close contests out with today’s best in Trinidad, Mosley, Whitaker’s, why should I consider this to be an anticipated shut out outcome for Floyd? Actually it is based on the past, I don’t find Mayweather particularly entertaining, let me take well appreciated Max Kellerman words on Floyd last fight – “He’s ( Floyd Mayweather) from the Detroit area, so let’s say he’s the Detroit Tigers. If you’re a Tiger fan, and the Tigers are winning by a lot in the eight h inning, you might file out, because you’re not there to see any particular exciting performer, you’re just to see if the team wins. You might go to a Cavs game, and they’re up 20 points in the fourth, but if LeBron James is in the game, no one’s leaving, because he’s such a spectacular performer. Even when Roy Jones was in boring, one-sided fights, people weren’t leaving in the 11th and 12th rounds, because you might see something you’ve never seen before from Roy. BUT MAYWEATHER’S NOT THAT KIND OF PERFORMER”.
Actually, I only remember Floyd to use his well exercised speed combinations ( like he works with the pads along with Big L and Roger in the Gym) when he closed the distance with Zab and actually came forward against N’Dou, Chop Chop and Manfredy. Besides, he always fights the same way and I don’t expect him to run risks and challenge Oscar in close, he would have to take some to give some and that’s not his style. So in which concerns to hunger, Oscar may show more hunger to fight than Floyd breaking it properly. This has all the ingredients to follow the patterns of light middle fights Whitaker vs Vasquez ( for Floyd’s benefit) or Norris vs Taylor ( for Hoya’s).
Finally, I continue to state vigorously to Doggy and everyone : If judges like Chuck Giampa or Paul Smith step up, it’s in the bag for Floyd cause these guys have the same perception on Floyd’s so called superior skills and the scoring is poisoned from the very beginning. Then, I only saw ref Vic Drakulich take a point from Floyd for sticking that forearm on his opponent neck because Castillo was holding Floyd’s waist and nailing him with the right on the blind side of the ref and thus doing his own faults and being penalized for it. Don’t expect Jay Nady to do the same. Mitch Halpern and Richard Steele should have been appointed…
GOD DAM – judges appointed: Chuck Giampa, Tommy Kaczmarek and Jerry Roth. At least, the ref is Kenny Bayless. Doggy, Hoya invited Floyd Sr as a guest, LOL…Oh, and check out Max Kellerman prediction in the HBO page!
ummm… MAYWEATHERS GONNA WIN!
… does anyone know where i can buy a monkey?
yes mayweather will win the track meet, because toe to toe he doesnt stand a chance. I think he will be taught a lesson and the little “BRAT” mayweather will get a spanking. Mayweather says that he will retire after this fight, i dont think he will have a choice, after the beating on saturday. Its just another big mouth trash talker Delahoya will shut up once again
My Last Comment: Oscar is in a no win situation, if he’s too slow to get off, he’s gonna lose the early rounds and will persue helplessly Floyd in the end stretch; if Oscar starts the fight at a fast pace, he’s gonna get bone tired and may not even last the distance… Floyd will definitely win though cause he has the one chance to beat a very popular fighter in a gigantic stage and that would put him on the front row of modern boxing’s best and that has to be a factor, call it hunger if you will. Remember Hoya coming up against Chavez, it’s the same thing… All merit and courage for Hoya for having taken this challenge, good luck Oscar and Floyd
he will not weather the storm, the thunder and lightning fast o”man rains down on him will leave him no choice to retire
DELAHOYA WILL BE THE MAN SATURDAY,AND GUESS WHAT, HE’S TRAINED BY MAYWEATHERS DADDY, GOES TO SHOW, HIS OWN DAD DONT LIKE HIM…HA
In regards to DLH Trinidad, I think DLH was robbed.
You score boxing by the round.
The first Six went to DLH easy.
The next Six even on Titos fathers card couldn’t be more than 4 for Tito for DLH.
My thing is, if I beat you all night than its your Job as the fight thats behind to find a way to get to me when I’m evasive. If you cant your not effective and should be penalized.
DLH was also robbed in the 2nd Mosely Fight.
George Forman accused Bob Arum of Funny Busness on Air after the fight.
As a guess?? How could he onl;y be a guest when Floyd said he now has the only edge that Oscar had? Dont kid yourself with that he’s a guest biz. But either way guest or not, the fact that Floyd inviting his pops in his camp was purely for some sort of gain wether for training purposes or mentally…. But i have a question, say if Floyd does the same thing Oscar did in the fight with trinidad. Winning the first 8 rounds then say, Oscar catches Floyd with a good hit and Floyd becomes the running man for the last 4 rounds. Will the judges give Oscar the fight as they did with trinidad?
I dont think people saying Oscar is out of his prime is exactly the case. After all being in or out of your prime is not directly related to age but more so on how a person feels. Oscar says he feels grood and looking at his last fights which all took place after his so called prime, he looks good to me too. The one thing about it is that Oscar hasnt fought alot over the last 4 or five years so chances are he may find his self out of rythum and will tire. But he still looked good against mosley and hopkin and he crushed Mayorga which would have been nothing to shout about if he would have won on points. But a straight knock out over mayorga for a man thats suppose to out of his prime is pretty impressive me, put modestly.
Save your money. . Watch the free fight on USA mayorga and Vargas. These guys will really fight.
Mayweather and De la hoya will be a horribly boring fight. They are both boxers at heart only Mayweather is a little quicker so he will pull out a very boring decision. Plus, because of the new rule in Nevada the gloves will be heavier so even less likely some one will get hurt with the extra padding.
Save your $$$. Watch the free fight on USA mayorga and Vargas. These guys will really fight.
Mayweather and De la hoya will be a horribly boring fight. They are both boxers at heart only Mayweather is a little quicker so he will pull out a very boring decision. Plus, because of the new rule in Nevada the gloves will be heavier so even less likely some one will get hurt with the extra padding.
It seems it was not my last but there can be not many more as fight night gets closer and closer and my mouth gets drier and drier… Did anyone check the weigh ins? 50 is carryin Floyd’s belts and may get in there with PBF blastin out sum “Many Men” like Nelly and Spinks in St. Louis in Spinks vs Judah II. Oscar looks HUGE at 154, strong, fit, chiseled to carry Floyd’s bag ( at 150), Tito, B-Hop, Shane, Michael Buffer, Jose Suleiman, everybody’s thrilled. I hope a great technical bout to see close, how the styles match up, Mayorga v Vargas, never, this fight is taking the world by storm but I still think Floyd will win by 8 round to 5 or by 7 to 5 and 1 even, 116-112 for Floyd in a great night, hope everybody enjoys it
De La Hoya robbed once again… I definitely thought it was a close fight… but for me I saw it going for De La Hoya… I’m done with boxing.
Well, said and done. Fight went as i thought it would even tho I was routing for Oscar. I wouldnt say he was robbed because even tho he through more punches he connected way less. My thoughts personally, it was the same Floyd as usual but not the same Oscar and i believe that it what cost Oscar the fight. Anybody who seen the fight knows Oscar does not fight like that and was probably do to a poor fight plan and thinking instead of punching to end the fight he was going to throw as many punches in as little time as possible maybe thinking he can out punch Floyd there for out land Floyd. Bad choice. Oscar should had been himself and evrything else would have come in place. In any case it was a boring fight and im glad i didnt pay for it.
well oscar lost,but really did he he got the most payout of this fight,,,,if you agree with me he did win,may weather ran like a silly boy,boxing is bought in the early round i heard emmanuel stewart was already counting on may weather,larry merchant was almost throwing blows with him about his comments….oscar won the fight and i say, i for one will stop and boycott the boxing networks.as all boxing fans should stand up and follow your hearts,ufc here we come….
like i said.. maywheather! oscare never has a good plan. mayweather (even though an a**hole) still won. oh well… as long as i got paid!
ha! oscare win this fight.. funny! i bet months ago on this fight… just want to tell this to everyone i bet HA! HA! I GOT ALL YOUR MONEY!
HA. NOW I HAVE AN EXTRA COUPLE G’S!
giiyot c oscar ni floyd sa ring, pildi lagi dah!!
mayweather ran from de la hoya all fight long and i think that was bulls**t that mayweather won the fight.
I scored the fight even, Floyd winning the last four rounds.
I think Oscar got frustrated and started looking for a big punch and forgot to Jab.
I knew the fight could go like that but I thought the magnitude of the event would make Floyd want to do more than be the fast guy no one can catch. But he was smart.
As per the judges I don’t see how the one had it so much in favor of Floyd.
He was sharp but he didn’t throw any puches for the first half of the fight. Not saying DLH was spectacular but he was the agresser and pinned Floyd on the ropes.