Mayweather Edges Oscar by Split Decision
ANALYSIS: As "superfights" go, this one left me with an empty feeling. It was a good fight ... but it was far from a great fight. It won't hurt the sport ... but it certainly won't revitalize it either (and it never had a shot of "saving" it as some writers have wishfully suggested). In fact, the big problem with Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. was that it went exactly as expected. Boxing is at its best when fulfilling its billing as the theatre of the unexpected. Unfortunately for fight fans, De La Hoya and Mayweather offered only the expected.
DE LA HOYA: De La Hoya was generally the aggressor but rarely an effective aggressor. He found success with his jab in rounds four through eight but then abandoned it as his trademark late round fatigue resurfaced in rounds nine through eleven.
MAYWEATHER: Mayweather displayed an impenetrable defense and great hand speed but never put his punches together. While Mayweather may be peerless in terms of raw physical ability, it's hard to get excited about a fighter who throws 40 punches per round and appears satisfied with doing just enough to win. Fans want to be entertained but Mayweather doesn't care about putting on a show -- he's only concerned with winning. That's his prerogative but it explains why he's wasn't a box office draw before this fight and why he's still not going to be a box office draw after this fight.
SCORING: Judges Chuck Giampa (116-112) and Jerry Roth (115-113) scored the fight for Mayweather. Tom Kaczmarek (115-113) scored in favor of De La Hoya. While De La Hoya appeared to win the twelfth round, Jerry Roth gave it to Mayweather. Had Roth scored the final round for De La Hoya, his card would have read 114-114 and the fight would have been ruled a draw. Click here to view the official scorecard.
PUNCH STATS: De La Hoya landed 122 of 587 total punches (21%) to 207 of 481 (43%) for Mayweather. De La Hoya was also busier but less accurate with his power punches, landing 82 of 341 (24%) to 138 of 241 power punches (57%) for Mayweather.
POTENTIAL CONTROVERSY: Every big fight needs some controversy and this one was no exception. De La Hoya's corner is reportedly considering protesting the decision after noticing that the official master scorecard listed De La Hoya fighting out of the blue corner when he was actually fighting out of the red corner. Sounds minor but boxing officials often have difficulty tabulating scorecards even when they're clear on who's fighting out of which corner.
WHAT NEXT: De La Hoya says he intends to continue fighting but should retire as he has nothing left to prove. Mayweather says he intends to retire (not a chance) but should continue fighting because he has yet to have a career-defining fight. A win over Oscar De La Hoya looks great on the resume ... but there was nothing memorable about this fight.
REPLAY: HBO will replay the fight next Saturday, May 12 at 10PM (ET/PT).
Comments
Oscar won 115-113. As the challenger, Floyd needs to win the fight convincingly. Oscar pressed and forced the action. Dela Hoya, who is way past his prime years, gave the younger and fresher Mayweather fits in the early going.
Oscar should not retire. The sport still needs him. Floyd needs to unretire. I don’t see him as an ALl-TIME great, let alone the greatest in all of boxing history. He has a lot of prove. On any given night, Mayweather could have been annihilated by Robinson or Leonard, who simply had sheer power incomparable to what Oscar has.
I actually remembered about Toney Holyfield somewhere in the 3rd when Mayweather shooked Hoya, stood right in front of him in the 4th and hurt him for real with those one-two counters on the ropes, at the end of the 5th… The way Floyd was doing a masterful work on defense, ducking low, rolling his shoulder or blocking those flurries on the ropes ( was laughing at the outclassed Hoya as he took body punches and the girly crowd was screamin out loud in the 7th), glimpses of the Toney-Holyfield came back to my mind and I almost believed Mayweather could close the show… I am very disappointed at Hoya, he didn’t do anything in the 1st and took five sharp left hooks, came back in the 2nd and clinched smartly 2 minutes into that round - that was the only time I had the fight even, at the end of the 2nd - used triple jabs for the first time at the start of the 3rd but missed wildly with a left and then it was Mayweather, Mayweather, Mayweather. I was sorry for Hoya that when he landed a big right in the 5th and started the first 30 seconds in the 6th with a flurry, he didn’t follow up and at the 9th, I had Maywether already 98-92, Oscar was not going to knock him out and the irony was that he was shaken the first time they traded in the center of the ring, right before the final bell. I had 118-111 to Floyd with Oscar really winning just the 2nd and the 7th, with the 12th even… That’s what happens when you stay long time inactive and reinvent your boxing to beat one man for 20 million dollars, his flurries were fast but uneffective, he never used the jab or the left hook, was a sucker for a short left hook and over-hand rights, jabs to the head and body, didn’t prove to be stronger just cause he pressed Floyd’s into the ropes… If Oscar demands a rematch, like he says Floyd Sr agreed he won the fight (SOAP TO THE END???), I will definitely say Oscar is over-shadowing Shane, Margarito, Cotto and is damaging boxing in a selfish way!That’s it, Oscar!
I am sorry, Oscar is not damaging boxing, he’s killing the sport and everything he’s accomplished so far ihe’s gonna analyse it on tape, he was blocking all short left hooks and right hands with HIS FACE all night long… And Mayweather will kill and bury the sport now if he doesn’t fight Shane or Margarito as a welter, he says he’s a welter, beats three 147 pounders, fights a light middle and retires? What the hell, in his prime, the madster chicken sh** is retiring??? Oh, forget about them, c’mon Sugar Shane ( 35 YEARS OLD), let’s make it either with Tony or Paul or Miguel or Zab!
I don’t know how a boxer can win a fight when:
- He’s running away from the other guy most of the fight.
- Fights like he’s trying to win for points in the Olympic trials. This is pro boxing! People paid for a real boxing fight, not a jab jab and let me go run.
You’re right that Floyd didn’t win any new fans except women who think they can fight now since Floyd fought like a pussy.
For a guy who called himself an assassin and a badass, Floyd lost alot of street cred. Fittty Cent should be ashamed of running around with a girlie jabber. Floyd Senior must have thought he had a gay son up in the ring!
Oscar is needed in boxing, although not in the ring anymore. His Golden Boy has replaced that Don King filth that’s been in the boxing environment too long.
Oh, come on, Floyd didn’t have to do anything more just because he was the challenger. That’s BS, BoxingCritic.
You guys know nothing about boxing. It wasn’t a classic fight, but it was a good boxing match. There’s NO WAY OSCAR WON THAT FIGHT. NO WAY! Being beat to the punch; having horrible accuracy; and trying to be a brawler (unsuccessfully). Does not constitute victory. He was out classed. No questions asked. Period.
Anyone else scream for the jab more from Oscar even before Lamply and crue did? That was an obvious call. If he had stuck with the jab, Oscar wins 9 rounds. That’s why a rematch is in order. As it is, I had Oscar winning with effective defensive skills through the first 10 rounds and coming out a 115-113 victor. Period.
AAHHHHHHHHh your boy the noir is back…with the I TOLD YOU SO!!!! for all you floyd haterz…keep hatin it doesnt change the fact that your golden boy is a bit tarnished, dont’cha know…floyd ran, floyd did’nt brawl, floyd did’nt this floyd didnt that…..floyd did what floyd was suppose to do…WINNNN and very convincingly oh and guess what to be the smaller fighter why did he buckle dela hoya twice with a shot to the jaw and a uppercut to the body wait that’s 3x’s because another body shot made him wince also…now i’ll give credit where credit is do…de la hoya had the better jab when he used it but here’s the question…..why did’nt he continue? and yeah he thru a lot of good flurries but only one or two would get in….when has dela hoya been nullified like that…….well strum did it also….floyd accuracy was well pretty he landed about 45-47% of all the punches he threw…….no he did’nt brawl like he said he would but i would’nt either knowing dela hoya has a murderous left hook that he threw it only about 4x’s thru out the fight?…….rematch DLH…nahhhhh let him suffer his own medicine he never gave did quartey, or molina or whittaker or strum their rematches let him feel the lose they felt so close buttarummm no cigar…so keep sayin your he shoulda’s and oscar did this and that….oscar did not win….for the boxing purist y’all know…to you ppv or big fights only go watch espn fights and restart learning what the sweet science is all about effective aggressiveness means you was effective oscar was’nt points matter oscar did’nt and could’nt land past 9-10 punches in a round…….oscar never hurt floyd where as floyd buckeled oscar on several occasions………..PRETTY BOY 4EVER oh and undefeated…….not de la hoya, not maragito, not any current champion can make that claim hey there’s always cotto whom i like a lot……….hope he get’s by zab speed and power early
what were people watching if De La Hoya didnt push the fight there would be no fight. Maywheather talked all this sh*t but he did not do any thing he would go in jab get out ,he ran away he was scared.De la Hoya should have also stepped his game up and used his left jab.Why is every one talking about how good maywheather was doing defensively when De la Hoy was doing the same.Maywheather is a nobody he needs to fight another fight who is at his prime who is undefeated maybe Miguel Cotto or Margarito. De la Hoya should retire knowing he won the fight. He’s getting older and he should not make the same mistakes as the Great Julio Ceasar Chavez made and not retire at the right time. Also what Maywheather did is very disrespectful and should not be allowed coming out in red white and green with a sombrero thats like De La Hoya coming out with blck paint on his face no this is racism.
ive seen some of you saying De la hoya missed alot of shots everytime De la Hoya got Maywheather against the ropes the scared floyed got hold of 1 of his arms and didnt let go the smiles he made were to cover up how scared he was
Golden boy lives on Maywheather cant touch him the only great fighter hes faced is de la hoya , please de la hoya fought trinidad in his prime and should have won the fight lost against hopkins(middleweight champion) , 2 wars with sugar shane mosley, and beat vargas in his prime when he was koing every one in his path. Maywheather has earned no respect he’s still a lil brat, i bet you he thought he lost,but boxing is always contreversial ,10yrs from know we’ll say whos maywheather but De la Hoyas career as a boxer and promoter will live on Golden boy (May 5’s 2007’s victorious fighter)
Who ever says Maywheather won does not know boxing ima 16 yr old boxer and i could tell maywheather got hurt
Boxing is starting to be like wrestling, That fight was a joke, and please never ever let it go to the judges.
Chuck Liddell would destroy Mayweather. Mayweather would have no place to run.
nuff said
People, I also have watched the fight again today. Yesterday, I was more disappointed than anything else but I will not take back what I said already. Oscar Game Plan didn’t work from the very beggining. Let’s see, Oscar was supposed to “time” Floyd when Pretty Boy would try to get in and steal rounds with flashy, harmless “pity-patt” punches, wasn’t he? Well, in the 1st round, he took five short left hooks and didn’t block any of them… He was supposed to impose his long, stiff left jab and when he got in there with jabs, rights and clinched smartly at the end of the 2nd, I was like singing Coldplay’s “The Hardest Part was Letting Go”, but then… Then, those rounds that you guys say were close and actually went to Hoya on the judges cards ( check fightnews for the official judges cards), these rounds were the defining moment for Floyd’s sake and in my view - Oscar’s legs were too separated, he was so flat footed, his knees were buckling here and there ( the counter right in the fifth and more) and there was no body movement whatsoever, that was age and, Noir, you didn’t overestimate his decline… Floyd didn’t run, Roger and Big L were telling him Oscar was doing sh*** and Mayweather got bold and bolder ( traded in the sixth, laughed all the way at Oscar’s offense in the seventh - even though Oscar landed his share of right crosses and I gave him that round). By the 10th, Oscar was bending over, taking everything and doing a lil bit more than nothing. When he stumbled or shown to be unsteady on his legs at that last flurry, he was in there just for pride, for the crowd and so that the fight could live up to the expectations.
Dave Bontempo and Ian Darke of Sky Network said Oscar was in front at the start of the 12th, how ridiculous is that? It was not just Kaczmarek, people really believe that following Floyd and getting tagged cleanly all night long was enough for Oscar - Noir, this is what is killing the Sport really, nobody gave Zab that chance and he did better than Hoya in which concerns to accuracy, speed and rythim. Oscar only broke Floyd’s rythim and didn’t unable him to look very good, since he can’t beat Floyd to the punch and the fact that he does not have now more punching power than Floyd leaves absolutely nothing to expect in that highly unlikely rematch! Shane vs Floyd would be a natural but the Chicken sh*** doesn’t want it so let it be, Shane is sure to hold the WBC welterweight Title again! Oh and Mike, I am not afro-american but that thing of ODLH painting his head black is so unpolite and disgusting, you’re just 16 and we’ll leave it but you should be ashamed, so should Floyd be for wearing a sombrero in el cynco de Mayo, nobody wants more of dat
Floyd landed more punches but they where love taps. De Lahoya Landed the heavier cleaner punches. Floyd knows in his mind he was beat.
That was a hell of a fight!!!!Oscar coud have knocked him out but i guess he didnt want it bad enough.
That “fight” was a travesty. No hunger, no risk, no desperation. It was figure skating with gloves on, working for points. And this from the best two fighters in the game. It’s no wonder UFC is cannibalizing the boxing market. At least its fighters still fight.
hey….i dont think floyd wants mosely for several reasons styles make fights and that would be a near disater for floyd in the sense of mosely stays a lot more active than de la hoya…….and for the IDIOT THAT SAYS CHUCK LIDDEL beats floyd……ummm that’s ufc fighting anything goes but he could not beat floyd boxing floyd embarasses him also………duhhh i am hoping cotto and zab give us more which i believe it will……..here’s hoping that cotto emegres as the next boxing super star….and maybe paul williams and allan will redeem himself…and to my mane man francisco………see ya next big fight keep in touch with the zab vs cotto cant wait ta hear from ya …same bat time same bat channel
DE LA HOYA
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MAYWEATHER
So, De La Hoya lost to the champion bicycle rider. It’s a sham. I have no doubt that Mayweather is a great boxer. I would have no question to whom had won the fight if only Mayweather had displayed championship qualities. I don’t find running away and throwing pop shots to win a fight a champion, Oh that’s right that’s known as Mayweather defense. BS, It’s running. NO HEART. This man did not stand up and fight. He did not take the title from DeLaHoya convincingly. It was given to him by judges that didn’t even know who was in what corner on the score card. What a joke.
Who won and who lost? In my opinion boxing lost. If you look at the monies involved here, the boxing fan lost big. What kind of championship boxing are they feeding us? I have been a boxing fan for over 25 years. I seem to get conned time and time again with Pay Per View boxing programming. Thanks HPO for your usual pile of promoting bs. Some one deserves a raise for screwing over your costumers. Nice job. YES I DID SAY HPO. They charge the fan’s and profit BIG, Claim no responsibility for the out come. Keep in mind we all have seen better Championship fights for the price of a few commercial.
Francisco thats an example im not ashamed, then all of maywheathers corner was wearing shirts that said Mexico loves maywheather and let me tell you if some one african did that sombrero thing i would paint my face black and walk onto the ring with a spear if you want respect you need to give respect maywheather is a joke. Maywheather is not a warrior hes a coward Roger Maywheather wore a sombrero against J.C.Chavez and called himself the mexican assasin and got knocked the f*ck out by chavez , Chavez should he was an aztec Warrior , and why do they refer to De la hoya as a mexican ,like me he comes from mexican parents but we were born in L.A we are as american as any one else. the only Maywheather that has me respect is Floyd Maywheather Sr.
Mayweather is just another fake, just like Roy Jones, Prince Naseem Hamed, etc, ect. A fabricated F*g that is an embarassment to the sport.
“Pretty Boy” you bet, Not a fighter and Not a man. I think the name is perfect for such a f*g. Furthermore, after Roger Mayweather assaulted Zab Juda, what the Hell is he doing back in the corner?
Boxing is less credible than pro wrestling. The only difference is that in the WWE, they tell you it is “entertainment”
PPV, you got my last $50, I am going to the UFC…
If the object of boxing is to run from the other guy all night, then Mayweather won. Being that is not the object, Mayweather clearly lost but the judges and all you Mayweather supporters didn’t see it that way. If Oscar didn’t push the fight, their would have been no fight. Mayweather is a low class big mouth and his resume is not nearly as impressive as Oscars, period!
It was not a good fight. As one person stated, Mayweather ran from DeLaHoya most of the time. He looked like a child afraid of the beating his mom was about to give him. And his big mouth before the fight….what a joke. I use to enjoy watching DeLaHoya fight, but think it’s time he retire. And Mayweather, I wouldn’t pay a dime, nor take the time, to watch him fight again.
boxing is a deadly sport ufc is a fight mess any person could go to ufc and fight but boxing is profesiona only the best are the champion boxing for ever dela hoya won agiANT MAYRUNNER
You know the reason why Mayweather is leaving the sport? It’s because he is afraid to lose. He is afraid that one day someone is going to beat him. At age 30, why retire? It’s too early. Floyd wants to be the Rocky Marciano version of the lower weight class. The only difference is that Marciano fought the best what his TIME HAD TO OFFER!
Floyd has only fought one legitimate Hall of Fame fighter in Oscar. Oscar has fought the best fighters in his time.
If Floyd stays at 154, Winky will destroy him if the latter still makes the weight. Right now, I like Hatton and Shane to expose the little brat.
Here is to Noir, Mike and BoxingCritic… I luv ya all, Noir is a real fan and knows better ( 1st messenger before the fight and still makin sense), I understand Mike’s view, Floyd is an @$$@£ big Time and so is Roger so I keep my fingers crossed Margarito takes care of the lil brat, Finally BoxingCritic, yeah why should he leave the sport if he’s anything but afraid to lose? I don’t want to see his name on any ranking on the Ring Mag next edition, Pac Man is P4P nº1, Shane is the next WBC welterweight Champ, Cotto and Zab will be a great fight and so will Williams vs Margarito… Mike, we r all the same, look at B-Real, Cypress Hill, DJ Muggs, that’s the real L.A. spirit, latino-afro-european-bad motha f****, forget about De La Hoya, Ricky Martin and lil sh**s like Paris Hilton 2!
all judges (over 70) and I had it 4-3 Oscar when he suddenly stopped using the jab from 8th thru 11th winning the 12th big losing 7-5. Buffer never said split decision but it was. Oscar asked why he stopped throwing jab and said “it worked good I had his nose bloody” you want a rematch and wouldn’t get it if you won you fell down with Hopkins and layed back with Mayweather get out of boxing Oscar Floyd stay away from Paul Williams after he takes Margarito’s title.
Most so-called boxing analyst like the one who wrote this article are emotional about the fight instead of rational and logical. I could understand why so many like ODLH because of his nice personality and aggression in the first few rounds of all of his fights. But the reality is that he’s a typical brawler, with no stamina and a little skill (which he learned over the last 6 years) from Mayweather SR. They speak of his greatness due to his fights with future hall of fame fighters. The truth is he lost to most of these hall of fame fighters. Whenever he fought someone with real skill… He lost.
This commentator is so emotionally attached to ODLH he doesn’t realize how ridiculous he sounds when hes says “Mayweather only threw 40 punches per round”. If that’s an issue, why does Oscar get a pass as the champion for only throwing 8.9 more punches per round the Floyd. Not to mention all of these extra shots were no where near close to hitting the target.
This fight was a decisive fight for the best fighter of this era Pretty Boy Floyd. 9 rounds to 3. The judge that gave the fight to Oscar was like this commentator who has an emotional attachment(or financial attachement) to a nice guy and exciting fighter. Nice guys & excitment does not make you a great fighter.
An undefeated record of 38-0, title WINS against future hall of famers in several different weight classes, accuracy that can’t be matched and a inpregnible defense is what makes a great fighter. Floyd has it all. Take emotions out of the equation and check the punch stats from almost every fight that Floyd had and you have to agree, that he is the greatest of his time.
All these comments do is prove that Oscar fans are idiots. Yea, I said it. You are all idiots. You obviously don’t know a damn thing about boxing.
We got people on here saying Floyd ran, when he threw 40 puches a round. Floyd landed 7 more punches a round than Oscar. Read that again, no wait, I’ll type that again. Floyd landed 7 more punches a round than Oscar. HE RAN? You damn right he ran, ran his fists right into Oscar’s face. By my scorecard, Oscar’s record is now 35-8. WOW, what a great boxer.
This was the classic case of the “bull” vs. the “matador”!
The bull chased the matador for 12 rounds. Huffing and puffing with reckless aggression. (he clearly saw red)
Oh but that matador!!!!
He danced, he smiled, he was poised as if he was waltzing with the enraged bull. As the bull charged…The matador simply stepped to the side and stung, poked and jabbed the reckless beast.
In the end the bull was slayed effortlessly!!!
By the way, the bull through a lot of bull sh*t that came no where close.
My money is always with this graceful matador. Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather!
jboogie you dont know sh*t about boxing once you get in a ring then you have the right to talk ,maywheather was bleeding , De la hoya landed cleaner punches then when odlh hurt maywheather maywheather smiled and got hold of 1 of his arms (total coward) 38 0 oh my god but out of 38 fights this is the only big fight hes had (you know it , i know it , everyone knows it even Maywheather knows it) if de la Hoya hadnt won it , it should have at least been a draw
Just in case no one was REALLY watching the fight, Floyd landed some real nice punches, but they NEVER PHASED OSCAR. Think about that when you say that Mayweather deserved the win. He fought well, but he wasn’t able to stop Oscar, even with his hardest blows.
Mike, you’re rediculous. You obviously don’t know anything about the sport.
Mayweather’s resume:
Catillo (won twice)
Zab Judah(12-round decision-would’ve been a knock out)
Diego Corrales (stoppage late rds -shut out)
Baldomir (decision)
Angel Manfredy (i believe he knocked him out)
De La Hoya (12 round easy decision)
By the way Floyd is naturally a 130 pd fighter. He just started to go up in weight because he beat everybody in his weight class.
Oscar has been fighting over 150pd for some time. He’s naturally stonger. But just not smarter/quicker/ skilled.
David slew Goliath! And will always bust up the bigger slow guys.
Mayweather’s record is excellent. The only reason he doesn’t have more wins is because of his youth. He has major accomplishments for a 30 year old in the sport.
He actually took Oscar to school.
I think some people on here realize this simple fact…you saw the fight one way if you were a ODLH fan before the fight, and you saw it another if you were a Floyd fan. I was a fan of neither, I just watched for the spectacle of it. It was clearly a dominating fight by Mayweather. Floyd did run in the beginning of the fight, and looked genuinely afraid of Oscar’s power. But after he realized Oscar couldn’t hurt him he clearly outclassed him the rest of the fight. It was at least 8 rounds to 4. Anyone who thinks otherwise should examine the REAL reasons why they think that way. It’s probably because you don’t like Mayweather, or you love Oscar. Either way, it doesn’t change the facts. Boxing is about scoring…and always will be. If you’re in a boxing match with me and I hit you ten times lightly, and you hit me once really really hard…guess who will win the round?
Floyd Mayweather is great. He calls De La Hoya a chicken and runs the whole fight like the roadrunner. Oscar would have won easy if he would’ve popped the jab all night and threw more straight rights and right hooks. For a man who is supposedly right-handed he doesn’t box very well with it. Floyd kept one side of his face covered everytime he was in the ropes because he knew what punch was coming…the left hook. Mayweather will never be an all-time great. Even Leonard would go toe to toe with Hagler in exchanges. It’s good to be defensive but dam enough is enough. Last I knew I asked my buddies to come watch the “FIGHT”. It’s just a shame that one never broke out. De La Hoya won just by pushing the issue. He has to be confused because he himself whooped Trinadad’s ass for ten rounds and ran the last two and got shafted. Here’s a fighter that doesn’t fight for 11 rounds and wins. Boxing is crap and no old school boxing purist should praise Mayweather because all the greats had heart and would fight and exchange regardless of how good their defense was and do it for 15 rounds. Boxing is for panzies now. Boxing has gone to, or should I say for the “birds”.
Hey guys,let’s be reasonable, will we? Ed was by far the wiser of the bunch but still, Ed, I can’t understand it… This is boxing, you should hit and not be hit, beat your man to the punch and that’s what Floyd did… Oscar came in in excellent shape and tried to beat his man but he was badly advised here, you can’t beat a flashy counter puncher tryin to catch all his shots like you are wearing baseball gloves, he should have jabbed his way through… Why didn’t he? I tell you what, he knew he would get bone tired and would run out of gas, and then when you miss with a jab or a right lead, you can get countered and shaken ( your lower jaw is connected to the spene and nervous system and when you don’t have time to react for something unexpected, you can go down), that’s exactly what happened, he wouldn’t try to get first cos he knew that would be dangerous… Floyd works incredibly fast with Roger on the pads so what are you going to do in there if you don’t get first, you get tagged time and time again by a very accurate man, this is not about courage, it’s about being smart. You want to go to the UFC, good, we r talkin about the sweet science here!
The “sweet” left the “science” a long time ago. Thank god for the lighter guys who will still put on a good show. Frisco, I’d like you to name a fighter, a supposed all time great, who ever fought a fight like that.
can’t wait until some body knock mayweather out,l don’t like his boxing style.
Mayweather’s performance was a Masterpiece against a “STACKED DECK.” Oscar promoted this fight….99.99% of the crowd was for him…..Oscar wanted Mayweather at 154…Oscar wanted to pick the gloves….Oscar had the referee he wanted…the judges he wanted….It was on Cinco de Mayo…Oscar was at least 10-12 pounds heavier than Mayweather at fight night (oscar’s 160 to Mayweather’s 148)… Oscar was 3 inches taller than Mayweather….and Oscar has fought at 154 of more for the last 5 years and this is Mayweather’s 1st fight at this weight…..
And in spite of all that, Oscar’s crying that he didn’t get the “decision?????” That he felt he “hurt” Mayweather ? That he had the more crisp punches ??
OSCAR SHOULD HAVE KNOCKED MAYWEATHER OUT PERIOD !!!!
Mayweather was masterful in neutralizing Oscar….which in turn, neutralized the crowd.
Mayweather wasn’t running. He was maneuvering as the defensive specialist that he is. Many times during the fight, he stood right in front of Oscar, who didn’t have a clue for Mayweather’s speed and his anticipatory instincts.
Oscar had more control of the fight outside the ring than he had inside the ring against Mayweather. Oscar should be ashamed of himself ! He is more hype, than substance. I’ve been saying that for years.
The only reason HBO, Vegas, caters to him is because of the Latino crowd($$$) he’s pulling in. Other than that , Oscar’s all hype., imagery, with smoke and mirrors.
To stand there and sell everybody on that if he beats Mayweather, he’s the best pound for pound in the world, and his business partners Berhard Hopkins( who knocked him out) and Mosley ( beat him twice) standing on the same stage with him at the weigh in, shows you how hype can distort everyone’s reality about Oscar. Just shows you how people will suck up to him for the $$$$$.
Oscar made his bread and butter beating up no bodies. He also makes his bread and butter losing to the best !! He’s still the Golden Boy $$$$….but he gets his butt kicked by A-list fighters.
Larry Merchant said it best…Cinco de Mayo was…… M-A-Y-W-E-A-T-H-E-R !!
Jrig, Willie Pep won rounds without throwing a punch, Sugar Ray himself fought on the back foot against the Raging Bull, Ali fought like that against Liston and Foreman, Carmen Basillio beat Robinson that way, Leonard pity patt Duran until he said “No Mas”, Spinks beat Holmes, Whitaker beat Vasquez and Nelson, Camacho beat Pazienza, do I need to go on, gimme a break here and go to see guys choking other to death, rubbing themselves all over, kicking skulls, I am not into that s**t, my hands need to be free…
It comes down to perception. One could call it masterful another cowardly. I just see it as the latter. Once again, I challenge anybody to name an all-time great that fought and won like Mayweather did. The scary thing is people might want to emulate his style and then what do you have for the future of the sport. More people paying 55$ for a fight that nobody receives a scratch after 12 rounds? Floyd fought olympics style and won but we all know that his style sucks. Let’s not forget that judges are allowed to score a round based on aggression as well. I’ll take the aggression over pattycake any day of the weak.
Frisco you’re a jackass. Willie Pep fought something like 240 fights so I hope his defense was decent. If you’ve seen any of his old stuff he threw combinations and stood his ground. Sugar Ray and LaMotta hammered each other in the ring, Ali knocked Liston and Foreman out etc. etc. etc. None of these greats fought like Mayweather and they’d slap you silly if they heard you say that. They were men that regardless of who their opponent was would stand their ground before the waning minutes of the last round.
Frisco again at ya. I can’t get rid of all De la Hoya’s supporters who want to change the box subject for who’s who in the Macho business. Now, I am a jackass just cause I mentioned Willie Pep and Sugar Ray and Ali, Damn! Everybody knows how Willie was a defensive master, that Robinson wore down one dimensional La Motta with flashy shots from all angles before he cornered him, and Ali beat Liston cause Sonny wouldn’t come out for that sting like a bee and float like a butterfly, Foreman did exactly what Hoya did and Ali let him punch himself out before that final flurry on the 8th, I guess the reason Jrig offended me is cause he doesn’t want me to name these guys along with PBF’s performance even though he called for it, it doesn’t matter, I’m not going to call you names cause I know that u know that I know, the Cisco Kid… I talkin about sweet science, what about Shane? Why does everybody call on De La Hoya and Shane is the WBC welterweight mandatory challenger, han? Damn
Diego Corrales died last night in a motorcycle accident at age 29 in Las Vegas. He was a blood and guts fighter that will be missed in this sport. My sympathies to his family and friends.
He brought excitement to all of his bouts.
Rest in peace warrior!
Frisco you’re assuming too much. One, you assume I’m a De La Hoya fan and two that I think UFC is better than boxing. Read my first post again slowly and you’ll see that I never stated either. You know what they say about assuming don’t you? My point is that Mayweather’s a punk who talks alot of s**t and then runs the whole fight and throws pop shots. Then his performance is labeled by many as masterful????? I don’t get it. If I say in front of millions that you’re a coward and you’re afraid of me and that I’m going to kick your ass then you better believe I’d be on the first thing smoking to do so for millions of dollars. Regardless of what the outcome may be. Mayweather is all jaws and no balls. He could have put himself out there and shown everyone what a true champ was instead high-tailed it the whole fight. He could have rose to the occasion like so many fail to do in boxing these days and left it all in the ring. He didn’t because he is a candyass. He runs his mouth. Just like he did about UFC and then wants to apologize. The UFC and boxing are seperate entities that you can’t compare but what I do like about the UFC is that if you step into that octagon you better be prepared for war! We used to see that in boxing but it’s becoming a lost art!
My deepest respects to a Man with Honour and along with Gatti, Ward and few others, an ultimate blood and guts warrior, Diego Chico Corrales. I can’t dishonour Him, he’s a Champ in the Heavens above now. But I also wouldn’t like people to head butt and low blow me just like that… It took Balls or Cojones for Mayweather to stand in there and do that defense being pressed to the ropes by Hoya who is a masterful finisher. The same way, it takes a lot of guts to challenge one unbeaten younger P 4 P fighter and Hoya did what he could, exactly like I predicted and Floyd mentioned in post fight, 8 rounds to 4, 116-112… Then, Hoya has to take on latest challenge with Tito at 160 and Floyd do the same with Shane or Margarito at 147, just to honour the guys who always came back from knockdowns and defeats, forget about legacies and silly undefeated records
Frisco you assume too much. One you assume that I’m a De La Hoya fan and two, that I’m prefer UFC over boxing as a sport. You know what they say about assuming don’t you? Read my first post carefully again. My point is that Mayweather is a punk. He could have shown the world what a true champion is made of. Instead he resorted to all jaws no balls. If I call you a coward, a chicken, see “fear in your eyes”, tell everyone I’m going to kick your ass, I’d be on the first thing smoking to do so for millions of dollars and millions of fans regardless of what the outcome may be. None of the fights you stated above were anything like the Pretty Boy vs. Golden Boy. You must have read about them instead of watched the old clips I guess. Here is a man who could have put it on the line and fought with heart and threw some combos here and there but chose to put on track shoes. What do you have if Oscar doesn’t chase him all fight? Nothing. All those guys above were warriors. Willie Pep fought near 240 fights in 25 years. That’s almost 10 fights a year. Mayweather can’t put his ass on the line for a nice combination? That’s one thing I like about the UFC is that their fighters are closer to the boxers of the past in that when they step into the octagon they know what to expect and fight like warriors. I just miss how boxing used to be.
I have to agree with Eisele, the fight wasn’t bad but it certainly wasn’t a classic and it more or less lived up to its billing. From my perspective Floyd is unbearably boring to watch, compare him to Diego Corrales (rest in peace) who had tons of great fights or Manny Pacquiao, Gatti, Barrera… the list goes on. Eventually Floyd will run into a hard hitting, faster, younger fighter who will drop him and a decade from now you’ll barely remember him since he’ll have no legacy of great fights.
BTW… I find the frequent references to ‘boxing being on its last legs’ fascinating… I can’t remember a time in my life where I could turn on the TV at night and almost guarantee to find a fight being shown. Boxing reality shows, blockbuster movies, megafights and TV channels anchored around boxing suggests that boxing is at its peak.
Jrig, I would have to go backwards in the reincarnation process to attend Willie Pep’s fights but I have seen him on tape yes. And I still say Ali moving and beating Liston to the punch or Ray Leonard unleashing flashy comninations on Duran on their second fight or Camacho frustrating Paz or Sweet Pea on Nelson has everything to do with “The World Awaits” main event, just that Hoya stood in there and continued to sacrifice his body and jaw taking shots from any conceivable angle to make people’s money worth, only a De La Hoya fan or a Floyd hater wouldn’t acknowledge that… Then, I really find the UFC such a tasteful thing to be compared to Top Class Boxing. I don’t believe Floyd will leave a legacy of runners out there but I also don’t think he’ll be remembered, Hoya will cause he was so HOT, so CUTE, so a la Ricky Martin, that’s crap, yo know? Hoya is a A plus level boxer, Mayweather is a A plus level boxer, I don’t deslike them and I also don’t hate them, actually I love them but I don’t want to see them together in the ring anymore. Margarito, Cotto, Shane, Williams, Collazo, Hatton, Judah, they are all good, the HWTs stink of course but you still have a sacred monster there and he’s 44 years old. Come back to boxing, Jrig, you seem like an educated person, peace
Today to me top pound for pound is Manny ‘’pacman ‘’ Pacquao if waywheather went back down to lightweight he would not be able to handle manny and Maywheather cannot take on Margarito (Welterweight) Margarito would destroy him and his undefeted boxing career against nobodys corrale (rip) good fighter but got knocked out by Castillo in the 2nd round Floyd beat him in the 9th plus floyd fought 2 fights against Castillo from round 1 to 5 floyd dominated with his quickness but the rest of the fight Castillo dominated by putting pressure on him, Castillo won the fight but they gave it to Floyd. If Floyd is such a man how come he doesnt take on Margarito, or Cotto hes so scared of losing his undefeated record against a fighter his age thats at the top of his game. I mean Diaz who holds two belts would not Maywheather out please De la hoya has been on a losing streak since Sugar Shane Mosley , He had a hard time getting through Sturn. Lost against hopkins then beat the not quite known Mayorga please he’s been gone for a while now its all show but even though Maywhether did not touch him
hey fransisco what’s up brahhhh……..it’s a sad day former champion diego corrales has lost his fight in life….but leaves behind a beautiful legacy….he was the one who made floyd credible with his loss to pbf…..people fighters put there lives on the line and yeah we want to see toe to toe action blood and guts baby….but in loo of the fighters who have lost their lives in the square circle they should all be respected,,,except maragito…(sike) that’s for fransisco..lmao……but on the real…treasure these guys cause one day they wont be here…..prayers and love to the corrales family DIEGO CORRALES WORLD CHAMPION FOREVER
Well, I picked Oscar by points before the fight, and I scored a draw for what I thought was a non-fight. Floyd ran, Oscar chased, but neither was very interesting. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The way I see it, aggression should have gotten Oscar the draw–thast’s how I scored it; effective aggression would have gotten him the win. Oscar was not effective and Floyd mostly ran…boring!
Amen to the above. I’m a boxing fan so I’d want to see a rematch, (hopefully with some adjustments by both fighters) and even though I said I wouldn’t do it again, would be out another 55$.
go watch manny pacquiao’s fights..
now that’s a fighter and makes boxing worth watching. ufc and mma is really overtaking, but watch out for manny’s fights againts barrera and marquez. it will be one of the best fights you’ll see..
and the maywheatger fight and delahoya sucked by the way.
there are views for both parts that have their points but how do you bring back life to boxing when you fight like a pooosie…
Hey, whassup Noir? Corrales broke my heart, what a warrior, luv to Sacramento and all West Coasters… Now, I am pretty disappointed at Cintron aiming at the UFC, I don’t know how Manny is going to let him do that after Walter Mathysse… Anyway, Mike, Floyd is not likely to get back to 135 and for the last time, stop cryin out loud for De La Hoya, it sucks, man… It was a clear case of the old mangoose against a Cobra, that’s what happens when you dare to get into the range of a speedy counter puncher and hoping to catch his shots like you are with baseball gloves on, stupid stuff if you look how Floyd works in the pads with Roger, the guy doesn’t miss so watch again the fight in slow motion and GET REAL… Then, Margarito would not fight in spurts and his relentless pressure would break Floyd’s Rythm but what about Shane, Damn? He’s mandatory challenger and should not be step aside by Hoya again or at least give Williams, Cotto, Hatton a chance, otherwise Floyd can stick his word in his uncle’s big black behind!!!
Would be almost interesting to see Sugar Shane and Mayweather go at it. Don’t think I’d be suckered in for another Pay-Per-View robbery, but if styles make fights, would be tough for Mayweather to run and not fight against Shane.
Real Boxing people, those who have no racial bias and simply watched the fight realize that Floyd won this fight by unanimous decision, not the split crap that went down. Delahoya obviously had the first judge on payroll. The truth is Dela Hoya was rougher with floyd than anyone we’ve seen, but he got beat, he was hit at will and out boxed as we all knew he would be. Trying to be the closet thing to the great white hope isnt gona cut it. In the rematch Floyd will be more accustomed to the weight he carrying and should totally dominate Dela Hoya and make it look very easy. Just like Hopkins did with far less left in his tank than Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather wont take a dive, he doesnt need the money like other fighters so Delahoya will have to find a way to put the fix in or he’ll loose again, only by a unanimous decision this time. Brothers are Pound For Pound to everyone else, theres always cheating, controversy, excuses etc. Thats what will always happen on an even playing field. I say that for those who play the clandestine race card. How much evidence to this fact and how many years of complete dominance to you all require exactly.
Long Live Diego Corrales, he is and was a TRUE Champion! He was is better said he was a “Mans Man!” Much Love Diego Very sorry for your end.
Carl
Carl you’re an idiot. One could easily have watched the fight and totally judged on styles rather than race. Hell, Floyd’s dad did. There have already been numerous articles by respected writers that thought the fight was in Oscar’s favor or a draw because he pressed the action. I don’t know anyone who thought De La Hoya had a chance against Hopkins but no one could complain about that fight because two men were fighting like men and an outcome was reached in the ring. I’m a Pacquiao fan to. I guess that’s because he’s not as dark skinned as Mayweather right. Oh, wait, but then I like Taylor, Wright, Mosley etc. as well. Wow, I just must be a confused white guy. Anyways, the fight that needs to happen is Pacquiao vs. Marquez again. Talk about entertainment. A brawler vs. a boxer-puncher with heart. Not the s**t-talking, one punch, track star.
To the new unofficial Commentator on the block, Carl. I liked the way you put it first, you know, about racial bias comments and the Kaczmarek bull, Max Kellerman was one to put an emphasis on that right after the fight and he expected Hoya to win previously. But then, when you say that Oscar was the closest thing to the great white hope and that Mayweather didn’t take a dive for the money, blew it BIG TIME, Carl… It’s the same thing as to say Oscar’s previous opponents dived in for the payday and Oscar really counted just cause he was caucasian, that’s also a whole lot of bull. It was cinco de Mayweather alright but just cause you have a slick, smart, fast, excellent fighter in his prime against an excellent fighter who is inactive, faded and not about to compete in which concerns to speed… Oscar threw clubbing rights and was rough, did his best but everybody, Lampley, Merchant, Kellerman, Lederman saw it the other way, nothing to do with money, race, attitude like you actually started your speech with… Now, Mayweather SUCKS and we, the boxing fans ( not casual), don’t want to see him… So Sorry
Mayweather was very brave to enter a higher weight and he was a champion to win
I am not a expert but i saw a smaller fighter win it was like watching demsey beating the big guys,mayweather is a champion
mayweather sucks big time! I would love to see Sugar Shane knock the hell out of that punk!
There is no way Mayweather won that fight. First you gota beat the champion, with no question and him running all night left alot of questions of if he won. I don’t want to see a rematch cuz i don’t want to see Mayweather run like a little girl again. The next big fight is Oscar vs. Trinidad that is the fight Oscar needs to take. Mayweather can go run and be scared from another opponent but let me say this he now NEEDS another big name for Floyd to get the money on PPV sells, he needs hatton or cotto or mosley
Everyone in here must be half retarded. Boxing just isn’t about swinging hard. Boxing is finesse and movement. Mayweather just BOXED better. You will all see some day when he beats them all, he’s not named best pound for pound for nothing.