Knockdown Gives Pacquiao Split Decision Over Marquez
Sunday March 16, 2008
Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez have now fought 24 back-and-forth rounds and they still haven't determined who's the better fighter. On May 8, 2004, they fought to a draw but there were plenty of observers who thought one man or the other deserved the decision. Tonight, in the rematch, the judges favored Pacquiao by a narrow split decision but it was - once again - a seesaw battle that could have been scored either way. Marquez demonstrated tremendous ring generalship but he was knocked down by a perfect left hand in the third round and that gave Pacquiao the extra point he needed on the scorecards. By the final bell, both fighters were bleeding from nasty cuts around their right eyes.
After 12 thrilling rounds, each fighter received a score of 115-112 but judge Tom Miller scored the bout 114-113 for Pacquiao.
Punch stats: Total Punches: Pacquaio - 157 of 619 (25%); Marquez - 172 of 511 (34%). Jabs: Pacquaio - 43 of 314 (14%); Marquez - 42 of 201 (21%). Power Punches: Pacquaio - 114 of 305 (37%); Marquez - 130 of 310 (42%).
March has been a tough month for the Marquez family: Two weeks ago, Marquez’s younger brother, Rafael, lost a split decision to Israel Vazquez in an equally thrilling slugfest.
While a third meeting between Pacquaio and Marquez seems like a natural, it's unlikely to take place anytime soon as Pacquiao is slated to move up in weight to face WBC lightweight champ David Diaz on June 28.
Comments
to convince all boxing fans, there should be a paquiao-marquez rematch
VIVA Manny Pacquiao, a great filipino hero. Watch-out lightweight division here comes PAC-MAN.
them judges want shooting. that was marquezes fight
Marquez won ! in my view…
draw? i agree. its just big break for manny pacquiao. but remember their first match its also a big break for marquez. Judge’s mistake turns favor to him. Equal now. ok?
there should be a third fight because they are so equal in terms of talent and you cannot determine a clear winner. One more fight is a must for the boxing fans to see maybe at 135 lbs. ONE MORE FIGHT! ONE MORE FIGHT!
It was a close fight… if you review the match, clearly Manny won!!!
i read your comments there will always be two stories for this fight between pacman and marquez…some will say pacman won and another would say marquez…if we look at their first fight it was controversial and now this second fight some people see it as controversial..so we need a third fight…soon..maybe after 4 years again that would be great
i had it 114-113 for pacquiao. it was a close fight but the kd in rd 3 made the difference. the marquez brothers and nacho beristain are such sore losers.
all boxing fans should boycott all of bob arum{pacs promoter}fights if he makes pay 50 bucks for pac vs diaz. all the fans want pac vs marqez III NEXT.GREAT FIGHT I HAD IT A DRAW
IS NOT OK MOVE UP TO 135 AND FIGHT DAVID DIAZ WHO I THINK HE LOSE WITH MORALES, PACMAN NEEDS TO FIGHT MARQUEZ AGAIN “PLEASE PROMOTERS MAKE ANOTHER GRAT FIGHT.
100%, absolutely, definitely agree with you Jesrel!
dont run away pacman dont be a chiken you have to fight marquez again theres no escuse pacman is not going to make more money whith diaz, FIGHT WITH MARQUEZ AGAIN.
That was a very close fight. Both fighters are in their great condition. I think this is the hardest fight that Pacquiao had because Marquez is a very intelligent boxer. He is able to control what fight that he wants and that was the biggest mistake of Pacquiao. However, the knockdown made the big difference.
the judges know best! Pacquiao is the real winner!! Be a good sport Marquez! Don’t be a sore loser….VIVA PAC MAN! VIVA PHILIPPINES!!
lol @ someone calling pacman a chicken fist things first.. marquez got away from pacman on their first bout.. he sould’ve got like 5 losses already lolol.. no ones chicken here marquez just not worth the money .. i think diaz and pacquiao will give pacman and toprank more money hahah and for those sore losers better luck next time alright? lolol u just got owned marquez! haha
look Marquez wins for me he’s a great counter puncher and look at the punch stats.. Marquez has dominated the fight in all aspects.. so Marquez wins!!! la teira viva mehico. He’s the aggressor,a great puncher…
for me manny won the fight. he is the great mexican destroyer.. he he he.. better luck next time. hu hu hu… who’s the next victim? juan or david? watch out for his next fight… marquez dont be a hard looser… bwa ha ha…
manny accept the marquez is a hard opponent, on their first fight, manny wins but judges favor to marquez. so this time judges favor manny… what was marquez feel that he loose via split decision like his brother.. they both victim of split decision.. so better luck next time.. bwa ha ha…
Mexico has run out of fighters for pacman to dispose off at the featherweight divisions. now you people want a trilogy for a controversial draw and a clear win to happen? you think are are a better thinker than the boxer himself? pacman deserved to fight other great boxers up their.
i think all of you are interested that pacquiao want to fight both diaz. but it seems pacquiao is a great mexican destroyer and marquez trying hard to face a rematch against pacquiao. but he need to move up to lightweight division to prove that he is the best mexican boxer that can beat manny. who will be the next victim?!!
hey Lee, this is getting to be funny, the excuses and explanations. you should just send jmm to the olympics where punch stats mean something. pro boxing is about destroying the enemy by putting him down or out. after 24 rounds, jmm’s supposed skills have failed to accomplish that, but pac sent him down kissing the canvass 4 times. pac has given all the chances to jmm just like he did to em and mab. what more can you ask? face the facts hombre
Pls… Stats does not determine who will win the fight.. for example 1 boxers throws and connect more in 1st round it only scores in boxing as 10-9, and if 1 got Knock Down in 2nd Round it Scores 10-8. That simple so close Pacquiao knocked down Marquez, that the turning point..Pacquiao Won…
when pacquiao and marquez square off their first bout back 2004 and turns out into a draw, manny didn’t have much word from it, he accept what judges scores the bout. marquez should’ve done the same way this time, he can’t take it anymore from manny. manny is already the champion don’t fool yourself saying marquez won the fight cause its already there! even if you turn the world upside down, manny is still the WBC SFW champion. for marquez, god bless him
amigo marquez better open a cleaning business for carpet and canvass in mexico.Being floored 4 times u are really qualified and need more floorwax to shine ur future in boxing maybe?
ENJOY FILIPINOS BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY GOOD FIGHTER YOU HAVE IS IN HIS PRIME AND FOR ME THE FIGHT WAS 114 113 FOR MARQUEZ SOON YOU GUYS WILL CRY AND WAIT FOR 20 YEARS FOR ANOTHER GOOD FIGHTER.
First of all is boxing about points or who messed up who? if marquez knocked manny down then I think marquez and everyone who thinks marquez won has a legitamate point but that didnt happen so please STFU!!!
Yes, right now filipinos are enjoying and you cry! Your time already end and its filipinos turn. The ratio is just 1 filipino for several fighters. No match! and theres a lot of filipino fighters to follow. Just watch for them.
Pacquiao said: “Marquez would have to knock me down to beat me” This is something Marquez have had trouble achieving. I have to agree that pro-boxing is about subduing your opponent. Pacquiao can take Marquez hard punches while Marquez can’t.
If Marquez is not man enough to accept defeat, he is fighting the wrong fighter. He should go up in weight and face off with Gayweather. That way, we will have an interseting marathon between Gayquez and Gayweather. LOL!
why do mexicans are mad at manny?..filipinos loved barerra, morales and marquez
marquez was clearly defeated because of the KO in the 3rd round (,”)
I Have Pac 114-113, Pac clearly win for me in rounds 1,3,4,7,9 & 10 where in 1 & 11 are very close rounds. I think Marquez will fight Pac at 135, Pac loses something in fighting weights.
PacMan! have just claim his Superiority at 130pounds Division. He is the New WBC., no matter how Marquez crying like a baby., if he is a real Warrior. They must accept/respect the Verdict of the Judges.
PacMan deserve to win., After 24Rounds of boxing back and forth. Marquez hit the Canvass 4 times. Pacman is just an Ordinary Fighter.(he said) that he can fight a Better Fighter. Actually he is unstoppable., ( w/ Lightning Straight., and Left Hook)., Wicked Right Hook., Beyond GodLike.! Viva Philippines. Larry Merchant is right., Pacquaio should fight another weight class., and face heavier fighter because fans loved a fighter that will fighting specially on toe-to-toe action. Marquez is Technician., but his Techniques caught at Round 3., (Saved by the Bell. so lucky!)back pedal., neither use ur bicycle. or tricycle to avoid PacMan Lightening Speed.
Peace!!!
from 108-130pounds., and this time at 130pounds claims his Superiority.
135pounds is the Right time for PacMan this time.
Why did marquez lose? because he tried to sit in pacquiao’s corner after rd 3. Judges dont like that, its very bad to steal opponents corner. That’s why they could not count anymore Marquez jabs and counterpunches, judges keep thinking “marquez want to talk to freddie or sumpthing?”
yes, anoother 12 rds.. after 24 rds with marquez maybe pacman will have learned to box. maybe we should go back to 100 rd fights… that’s should be enough rds marquez needs to knock down pacquiao at LEAST once, or maybe pacquiao will get too tired by rd 35 and decide to go home to his mommy and buy her new golden rosaries..
We’ll have a sure winner if fight last up to 100 rds or who’s blood turns purple first.. 12 rds not enough.
PUTANGINA NYONG LAHAT PURO KAYO DUDA EH PANALO NA NGA SI MANNY!!! PUTANGINA NYO TALAGA!!! BOBO NA TANGA PA KAYO!!! MGA PAKSYET KAYONG LAHAT!!! ULOL!!!
Comment # 35 by BOY KANTOT SA PUKI is the best comment of all.
To Marquez and all mexican fans get over it. Meet Pacquiao in 135.
I hope to see Pacquiao versus Diaz, Campbell or Katsidis.
for a livelier discussion, you may want to visit mannypacquaio.ph or philboxing.com. Manny won by 115/112.
Using CompuBox punch stats and apply 10pts system
Pacquiao= 10,9,10,10,9,10,9,9,10,10,10,9=115
Marquez= 9,10,8,9,10,9,10,10,9,9,9,10=112
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox-juan-manuel-marquez-manny-pacquiao
Marquez won that fight. Hopefully Diaz knocks Pacman back down for a third fight between these two.
all the phillipinos i watched it with thought Marqquez won. The only reason these other morons r saying he won is because their flips! Pac Man sucks.. take the rematch and prove yourself worthy.. he’ll get paid with the trilogy than with David Diaz. Wac Man Sucks Putanganemo you fobs!
Filipinos adore mexican boxers. From Barrera, morales, marquez, etc… To the point that we even doubted manny’s victory coz it wasnt decisive enough. Filipinos, believe it! Manny really won. We waited 4 years for this. Enjoy the moment! It’s our time!:-)
Was out of town so I didn’t catch the fight till the HBO re-broadcast. I had Marquez pulling out the last round and had it 114-114. A decision for either guy was fair, and that cut on Marquez was nearly as bad as the one that kept Vidali K from taking away Lennox Lewis’ title.
Gotta figure Manny will go up and so not much chance of a third fight. Too bad, these guys were a great match; and the Vasquez/Marquez fight backed up with this has been a hell of a double header early this year.
Tang-ina nyo sabi ni mon, puro kayo dak dak.. Kayo lumaban para maranasan nyong matikman ang suntok ng pinoy..
Puro kayo kumento, magboksing din kayo para yumaman din kayo…
almost ten times kung pinanood ang laban s dvd…c paquiao tlaga ang dapat manalo!…ung mga boxing analysts n nagsasav n c marquez ang panalo,lalo n ung mga filipino analyst…magtinda n lang kau ng bote at dyaryo!
tangina n nyo mga mexicano kyo. kyo na lng lumaban kay pacman at ng matikman nyo lakas ng suntok nya. ang gusto ko lng sa mga mexicano masasarap mg bbabe hehe
I think Manny won but not convincingly. Some Filipinos who said that Manny didn’t won are also losers. Stop that “crab mentallity”. It’s funny that pro-marquez people are complaining to the judge who scored the bout 114-113 for pacquiao and not the judge who score it 115-112 for pacquiao. If you know how to add your total score would be 127 bec theres a KO but some low IQ totaled it 128.
manny is such a winner one asian champion!!! filipinos are champion we go overseas to win and to be a superior cause were winner in any aspect mexican are such putos!!!!!!!!bwahahaha
were filipinos are such good in any aspect!!!!but believe filipinos and mexicans have also simmilarity in culture !!!its just a fight dont be fool by any comments and suggestion!!just accept that you lose and many have won!!!!viva pilipinas!!!
they say JMM has the skills (much better than manny’s) they say manny got no skills whatsoever (he only has strong punching power and speed!). the problem is how in the world JMM cant even beat manny (with no skills!) in a convincing way? i thought hes so good at counter punching? hes fighting a no skill fighter but cant even beat the sh!t out of manny p. lol
paquiao is the best among the rest he’s still the fighter ….and i’m very proud of him cous i a filipino pride(MAKATANG PINOY)so u mexican U su-Ck u know your a PUTO cHicaNo PuTo eSe!