P4P Poll: Mayweather or Pacquiao? Who's Number One?
Floyd Mayweather Jr. was the consensus pound-for-pound king when he elected to take a sabbatical from boxing after stopping Hatton in ten rounds in December 2007.
Well, Mayweather is done doing whatever he was doing while 'retired' and will face Juan Manual Marquez in Las Vegas on July 18. The hope and expectation of everyone in and around the fight game is that Mayweather will beat Marquez (no easy feat) and then face Pacquiao to decide - in the ring - who is the top pound-for-pound fighter in the sport.
Until then, fight fans will have to decide for themselves who they consider to be the pound-for-pound king . . .
The 30-year-old Pacquaio is unquestionably in his prime as he appears to continue improving under the tutelage of trainer Freddie Roach. Mayweather is a low-mileage 32 and there's no reason to believe he won't be able to return to the form that allowed him to compile a perfect 39-0 record between 1996 and 2007.
Both fighters share Oscar De La Hoya and Hatton as their two most recent ring opponents. Pacquaio's overwhelming victories have The Golden Boy and The Hitman questioning whether they will ever fight again. What's important to remember about Mayweather's wins over Oscar and Ricky is that - while they were less impressive than Pacman's blowout victories - they both came first. In other words, Mayweather arguably beat better versions of both Hatton and De La Hoya than the ones that entered the ring against Pacquiao.
So who do you rate as the top pound-for-pound fighter in the world today? Mayweather or Pacquiao? Vote in our poll.
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Mayweather when compared to Pacquaio.
Speed : Mayweather 10 – Pacquaio 9
Power : Mayweather 7 – Pacquaio 7
Versatility : Mayweather 10 – Pacquaio 9
Size : Mayweather
It seems Mayweather is better than Pacquaio every way.
Heart : Mayweather ? – Pacquaio 10
Cole are you riding the yellow bus or something? do you often hear ppl talk about mayweather’s speed? hell no…and i watch tv a lot u block head! and power? mayweather couldn’t even knock out hatton until what like the 100th round??? you better loosen your chin strap on your helmet or something…
I’m the best but I’ll vote just to see those 2 beat each other up.
Floyd has slowed down the last couple years, and this was two years ago before he retired. He has been boxing since he was 4 and he is 32 now so he is probably burnt out from the sport.
At this point Manny has the edge in both speed and power. He has been fighting top tier fighters the last decade so he has a ton of ring experience. He doesn’t take time off from the ring, he always keeps himself sharp.
Mayweather is bigger but they are going to bring him down to 140-142. And being in shape may not be enough to beat Manny because mentally, Mayweather seems a little too cautious.
speed: mayweather-10 Pacquiao-9 power: mayweather:7 Pacquiao-9 versatility: mayweather: Pacquiao-9 heart: mayweather: ??? pacquiao-100 humility: mayweather:ZERO Pacquaio- 1 Million
My prediction is that Mayweather will have no chance to fight pacman because he will definitely be destroyed by Juan Manuel Marquez.on their july 18 bout….
COLES, you probably vote for Obama, hoping that Hussein Obama will free you from your mortgage..Now probably you know there are strings attached to it..Read between the lines and you will see what I mean.
Pacquiao is the best fighter today period!!!! KO hatton in 2 rounds delahoya in 9. mayweather in my oppinion deserved a draw at best against delahoya. and hatton wasn’t a quality boxing technition to begin with. he’s just a bunch of pressure and pacquiao proved he can be elusive obviously quick and powerful. 3 knockdowns the third leaving hatton unconcious before he hit the canvass. pacquiao has everything mayweather does. and the one thing mayweather lacks that pacquiao excells at, heart and effective agressiveness
Since 2003 Mayweather fought 10 times against DelaHoya, Hatton, Sosa, Ndou,Bruseles, Corley and Mitchell, Gatti and Judah.
Pacquaio fought 16 times with only a loss to Morales. He beat Dela Hoya, Hatton, Barrera and Morales twice and Marquez once. These fighters are good and some great fighters. Can you say the same thing to the opponents of Mayweather except for ODH and Hatton? What about Pacquaio’s higher KO ratio? You folks decide.
“…In other words, Mayweather arguably beat better versions of both Hatton and De La Hoya than the ones that entered the ring against Pacquiao.”…Ahh!!!!!!! ok put all your money to your Mayweather, i bet Pacquiao. Deal???
Seeing those two guys fight ,i most belived that pacquaio is the best . Why mayweather fight the best out there, when he was in top in boxing game.
You people kill me riding the band wagon. PacMan is a great fighter no doubt, but he lacks in one department that is the most over looked in the sport. (DEFENSE) PacMan lacks defense. He looks good fighting fighters who are a hell of alot slower than him because they cant hit him or block his punches. Mayweather my friend has Two of the most important tools in boxing, (defense& patience) Pretty boy will block most of PacMan shots and make him miss the others. While doing that he has incrediable patience, waiting to catch Pacman with solid quick chopping punches to the body and chin, and they hurt, just ask Corrles,Gotti,Judah,Jesús Chávez. ,Shambe Michell,DeMarcus Corley,Ricky Hatton,Phillip Ndou,José Luis Castillo,and Angel Manfredy. On july 18 2009 you can also ask Juan Manuel Márquez. He will suffer the same fate as the others. May I remind you Juan Manuel Márquez did beat PacMan once before and to many twice, including the rematch. Mayweather 39-0, P4P. Thats another thing how in the hell are you going to be considered P4P WHEN YOU GOT YOUR ASS WHIPPED. Only undefeated fighters can make that claim in my book. I’m just saying….
Oh Mr.Gee you got it all wrong. Barrera had superb defense,Sasakul had, Ledwaba had perfect defense, so is Lucero….there’s no defense against a stronger puncher.
Im a Mayweather fan, but I guess he lacks in resume-department. He needs to gets tested against the best. Not the kinds like Judah or Corrales for chrissakes!
I don’t buy the argument that PBF beat better versions of ODLH and the Hitman… where did that come from?
My book ODLH beat PBF take a look at PBF face after the fight.
The Hitman almost put PBF down and it wasn’t his best weight class.
This is crap
PACMAN is the best it is the people who watch make him the best for every fight he does their is a thrill of the game and that was the advantage of pacman over mayweather. with mayweather fight he may be the most defensive and patience fighter of the century that why his fight stinks.,fans like exiting and explosive fight pacman is the man he’s willing to take a risk punch and be punch. while mayweather defense and makes some chicken dance in the canvass and forget its a boxing match not a dancing with the star.
Mayweather’s hands are faster than PAC’s, but PAC throws a higher volume of punches, so it appears that he is faster. Manny has the better power but they are two different style fighters. Manny is the hottest fighter right now, and he beat some good fighters that were basically worn out- MAB and Morales pretty much cancelled eachother out, so when Manny got a hold of them, they were there for the taking. But remember, Morales clearly beat Pac the first time they fought and Morales had mileage on him at that time. Manny fought JMM to a draw their first fight because once JMM figured him out, he dominated Manny the rest of the fight to earn the draw and in the second fight, Manny barely won by 1 point because of the knockdown and was awarded a 10-8 score. Manny is a real good fighter, Roach is lucky to have him, but IMO, when he fights Floyd, he will be out boxed pretty badly. Everyone is so amazed at PAC because he is explosive and is vastly improving as a boxer, but in the lower weight divisions folks, great boxing skills, superb defense and ring intelligence usually defeats explosive power and that is what you get when you fight Floyd. Say all that you want about Floyd, but the dude’s skills are all that. I do believe Manny has the goods to beat Mayweather, he has ko power to end a fight with one punch, he throws lots of punches and never tires while applying pressure, but he needs Mayweather to make mistakes and Floyd is way too good for that to happen. Mayweather is not Hatton, he will not rush Manny and leave himself open to be countered and ktfo. He is not an old weight drained ODH or a worn out Morales, who had been in three wars with MAB. Mayweather is a master technician with great defense, he hardly ever gets hit clean and he is the ultimate counter puncher. He is basically a bigger, faster and better version of JMM and we all know the success JMM had against Manny. Mark my words folks, Manny will have his moments in the fight against Mayweather, but at the end of the fight, he will be dominated like never before.
Gee is one big moron riding on the zero loss stat of Gayweather Jr.. of course gayweather jr has zero loss coz he aint fightin the best fights.. always lookin for lesser risk fights.. the solid proof to that is gayweather now is fighting a legit featherweight in Marquez.. while Pacman is a legit super featherweight and has been trying his greatness in competing against the champs of the higher divisions coz Pacman has already beaten all possible opponents in his own division.. knocking even legit middleweights in Oscar Dela Hoya.. annihilating legit jr welter in Hatton and destroyed a legit lightweight in Diaz.. and in a fashion so mind-boggling even gayweather with his big size as a legit welterweight cant even do the same to these same opponents in Oscar and Hatton… gayweather has good defense yes.. his main defense is to run against quality opponents.. gayweather could have been knocked out long ago had he fought the best challenge in his own division… its so sad though that he is chicken and sooooooo gay!!!!
Who’s number 1? They’re both number one! Mayweather is number 1 in trash talking and boring boxing! Pacquiao is number 1 in humility and exciting boxing!
Nah, you got it so wrong KEN. In terms of opposition Mayweather never faced someone like Pacquiao. He cherrypicks to protect his undefeated record. If you think he is that great wait till they meet and when they do, please write back here you excuses.
Morales was worn out, Oscar Dela Hoya was a shell of himself, Ricky Hatton’s punch resistance went below the usual, hahaha. To be honest Ricky Hatton’s excuse was so insulting, I did’t see that coming.
a lot of crap is going on that gayweather is better than Pacman.. why not gayweather fight Pacman if indeed he believes he is the better man.. if that was me and i believe i’m better than the other… i no doubt will fight him and whoop his ass… but why is gayweather ducking Pacman and instead went to the lesser Juan Manuel Marquez?? obviously it’s becoz he fears Pacman.. the thought of being inside the ring with Pacman makes gayweather pee his pants no end.. i dont blame him.. such position is really dreadful.. so i understand why gayweather is coming up with fast solutions and ways not to make it possible.. it’s alright gayweather… i understand.. you are just chicken.. and that’s alright… Pacman Rules!!!
never mind the debate… let’s just wait and see… if it happens??? maybe not… still for me Pacman is the best at the moment and Floyd always runs away with the best fighter lately, I mean Marques??? he is too small for him and even Pacman. He should fight Cotto,Margarito or Mosley.. This guys are the one with His Caliber but for the sake of who is the p4p then ok… we’ll just wait and see. Marques was the hardest fighter Pacman had face but still Pacman was the winner, no more issues co’z it’s done and over. draw on the 1st fight and Pacman won on the second… Marques never put Manny down but Him, he kissed the Canvas 4xxxx so what’s the problem with that. If a 3rd match Happen then who knows? He might not wake up again or Pacman may lost…. OK
i dont understand why people call Pacman’s defeated opponents as worn outs, dehydrated and ready for the picking… when Pacman fought with 2 week’s notice against then champ Ledwhaba, nobody even gave Pacman a chance and people said it will be a walk in the park for Ledwhaba.. when Pacman fought Barrera people said Pacman has no chance.. when he fought Morales and Marquez they said Pacman will be annihilated.. when Pacman fought Diaz they said Pacman is too small fighting in lightweight.. when Pacman fought Dela Hoya they said it’s a mismatch.. when Pacman fought Hatton they said Hatton is the real deal coming in undefeated at 140 lbs.. and now that all of them were destroyed by Pacman, they are all washed-ups and worn-outs.. funny.. so when Pacman now fights Mosley and Cotto and defeats them, I can hear people say they too are old or ready for the picking… wtf!!! whats wrong with these idiots?? morons are everywhere!!!
mayweather is such a boring boxer!pacman is super exiting!
Manny pacquiao is the #1 p4p in the planet today no one els
dela hoya and hatton were better versions on themselves when they fought mayweather than when they fought manny… what a misplaced idea! Don’t tell me that shane was better in his earlier outings than when he fought cotto…and the rest of the fighters. dela hoya had a better team and good training regimen in prepration for manny… hatton claimed he also had (before the fight). They are well prepared. their loss is utterly one-sided due to the skills of manny.
KIRKS.. they just can’t accept it because they’re a bunch of loosers… excuses excuses and excuses… it’s always like that, jealousy is the right word for that… they’re Jealous of what Pacman has achieve… So lets face it, other people will always say against the best fighter but at the end of the Day He is (pacman) the p4p king… With a humble in His heart and never do trash talking and always just doing his job and entertain the crowd to make them happy…
Hatton on the other hand, i heard all His interview before the fight and even after… all he’s doing now is cry everyday he wakes up… and if’s is his favorite word at the moment… If he stayed for few rounds, if he was able to control his heart…. etchetera etchetera…. He will not be beaten on his comfort zone and now they’re saying Hi drained or worn out… what’s going on Here Man, even me myself had it 50/50 since hatton was never beaten at 140lbs but not now….
…”In other words, Mayweather arguably beat better versions of both Hatton and De La Hoya than the ones that entered the ring agaainst Pacquiao”. Ha???, you mean to say Hatton was better on 147 lbs when he fought mayweather? What an observation?? So, you also mean that Erik Morales beat the better Pacquiao on their first bout??
The first loss of the boxer is not necessarily mean that he is better in shape than on his next loss. It only showed he lost to a better boxer.
Maybe you have forgotten that Manny has three losses before he become the best!
WHAT AN ANALYSIS!!!!
after JMM, its Usain Bolt that i will challenge..that, i have a better chance of beating rather than face the PACMAN..just the thought of it makes me PEE!!
“Mayweather arguably beat better versions of both Hatton and De La Hoya than the ones that entered the ring against Pacquiao” jiggah please? DLH and Hatton are very good fighters. They didn’t do too well in the ring with Pac because they underestimated him. Pac is like a Ninja equipped with all kinds of weapons. You’ll never know what he’ll throw at you.
Stupid! stupid! stupid!
Always making an excuse that Manny fought a more beatable version of blah blah blah
Barrera – Training was interrupted
Morales – he’s been in too many wars
Diaz – He was too slow for him
Dela Hoya – He’s too old. He’s dehydrated.
Hatton – Mayweather already made him soft for Pacquiao.
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe! They all looked that way because they were fighting Manny Pacquiao?!
Damn! You really are stupid!
I wonder why there’s still people who dont believe pacquiao is the greatest boxer of all time. Those of you who dont believe me i dare you bet all your belongings when pacquiao fight mayweather, cotto, mosley or even margarito. ok? Trainer Mayweather Sr. I ask you can you still now say in front of media that pacquiao boxes like an amateur? pacquiao makes every opponent retire simply because 1st he has no fear, 2nd he has the heart, and ultimately he gives credit to God who is the only one who helped him and not boasts of his own God-given talent unlike the self-proclaied Ali and Mayweather jr. Why you critics have your excuses pop up after the fight such us Dela hoya drained, that he is old, etc, why not tell that excuses before the fight. it simply because you hypocrites dont accept that Pacquiao is the best!!!
That Usain Bolt detour by Gayweather, I think, is the most amusing picture ever given about Pretty Girl Floyd Gayweather’s lame excuse for ducking the Pacman! Right on the chin, like that perfect left hook!
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i dont buy the crap of reasoning that Oscar Dela Hoya and Hatton are not better fighters than when they fought Gayweather Jr the first time… if this is our line of reasoning then we can say that Pacman’s first loss when he was a kid softened him up for the taking by the next opponent.. Pacman’s 2nd loss again softened him up for another next fight.. again Pacman’s 3rd loss against Morales must have softened him for the picking by the next opponent.. if this is so.. then please please explain to me why Pacman has wiped out all those who defeated him and went on to the upper divisions to wipe out champions naturally bigger than him… why?? how did that happen if that was the case?? is Pacman a freak of nature?? stupid reasoning!!! where did these so-called pundits learn to read, write and think?? pathetic fools!!!
handsdown Manny Pacquiao. Remember that Manny fought all the big names and was always considered either too small, too lanky, less powerful, less skillful..etc. When he fought his first pro fight at 106 lbs. he was merely 98 lbs at the scale. Literally he had an 8-lbs dumbbell in his pocket. So whose the risk taker? Pacman. who fought hardlife, poverty, humiliation, scarcity, deprivation? Pacman. Who made giant strides in acquiring skills? Pacman. The best fighter in the world, of the decade, possibly atop the all time list, Pacman has not only battled life itself, he conquered it. What does he show for it? Oh mine….a truck load of humility. He is not a saint…but as he matures, he realized all that are his — power, charisma, speed, money, fame — all came from God…and he gives it back to him by paying forward to his people. Now…that’s a real fighter.
ask mr. kellerman…
he explained it best on who among the two sits on top right now.
the way i see it, they’re both on top of the world, with manny sitting on floyd mayweather’s shoulders.
Hey Mr GEE!
i think your book is based on the false premises!
you are dreaming out there! your idea is very radical!
you are like scuba diving with no water! hahhahaha! SUUUUUck you gayweather in your jaw!
a boring boxing fan rooting for the most boring fighter in the universe!
are you not a shame of yourself?
he is just making a noise people…
so he could earn more hits on this site…
don’t waste your time…
it’s a no brainer Andrew… It’s a given that the best always happen to be the fighter, not the talker!
better versions you think drew? mayweather fougth hatton at 147, then he fought dela hoya at 34 yrs of age.. pacman climb for both fighters, highlight hattons fight in his turf..consider this drew, u can say that pbf fought the better versions of hatton and, or is it just because, pacman overwhelmed them so easily like eating peanuts thats why your saying that maybe they were not in there prime.. think again..
Pacman – Mayweather? there is no debate here on who’s the best right now if only we’ll look at the achievements of the two objectively. If Mayweather fans want him recognized as the top world’s fighter, the best they can do is urge him to fight Pacman, period…
Just click the poll result guys. its only 8% of the poor gayweather compared to the pacmans 91%. its obvious that manny pacquiao is the number 1 pound for pound king this era. no discussion who’s really the best. this forum is closed.
Mayweather has excellent defence and he has never lost to any fight. He is very good in blocking punces, and surely he will block Pacman’s punches. But Pacman throws numerous powerful speedy punches, he may block some but some will land on Fraud mayweather chin and body. Pacman gets stronger and stronger as the round goes on, and by the time the punches accumulated on the later round on Fraud’s body he will go down. He will not only go down by the heavy punches of Pacman, also the PRIDE that he is carrying will surely lead him to fall at the moment in his mind he chooses to fight the Pacman.
Speed:GAYWEATHER-10
PACQUIAO-9
Heart:GAYWEATHER-5
PACQUIAO-10
Power:GAYWEATHER-8
PACQUIAO-10
PASSION:GAYWEATHER-0
PACQUIAO-10
HUMILITY:GAYWEATHER-Hell!
PACQUIAO-10
Definitely GAYWEATHER will go to hell!!!
Pacman has bigger and harder BALLS than Gayweather. In a combat sport like boxing, that’s all that matter. In fact, you’ll wonder if Floyd has it at all.
Pacman is #1, Gayweather is #10
i was just laughing at one comment i read here:
HUMILITY: 10-Pacquaio Zero-PBF
So true! Modesty is not in Mayweather’s vocabulary. LOL!
people always criticize manny’s opponents as being washed up. gayweather handpicks his opponents manny doesn’t or if he does, its always someone bigger. mayweather’s 39 nil my ass. what kind of a great fighter handpicks opponents?
people never learn… simply because they cannot accept that pacman is the best p4p boxing in the planet today… there is only one way to find this out. mayweather vs. pacquiao…winner-take-all! bet your house and all your money in the bank.
I hope Mayweather and Pacquiao fight. So we can see who is the best. All you guys stop complaining and hope this fight happens. Lil’ Floyd first must get past Marquez, which I doubt it because Marquez is one badass. Floyd, Your absolutely right Pacman and Dinamita are too small for you. Your mouth is always faster than your fists. Dumb comments. Now people are asking ” If this guys are too small for you, why fight them? Duh!! Pick your own size if you have the balls, ah now I wonder, maybe their smaller than the rest!!! Good luck Lil Floyd….
I thought Floyd jr actually lost his first bout with Jose Luis Castillo, and by the way, so did the great Imamuel Stuart.
But I find it hard to think he will lose to Pacquio because of his size advantage and safty first fighting style.
But even if Manny were to lose he could still be pound for pound better than Floyd because of the size difference and the fact his wins over DeLaHoya and Hatton were far more impressive than Mayweather’s
@GEE
Hi there stupid!
They said, Dela Hoya’s gonna toy with Pacquiao because he’s simply bigger and stronger and more technically sound than Pacquiao.
Hatton’s gonna bulldoze his way to Pacquiao.
And now you are saying that Mayweather WILL JUST block Pacquiao’s punches? Now where did you see that? How did you know if that’s what’s gonna happen.
I bet you also saw Pacquiao knocking Hatton out in just 2 rounds.
Stupid!
Pacman is number 1. He is the most exciting fighter right now. His speed, power and skills are amazing, a very entertaining boxer to watch. He is number 1 pound for pound fighter. the best in the world right now. Mayweather nah! he is freaking boring! He is ducking Margarito, Cotto, Mosley. If Floyd Jr really want to be the best, He should fight Pacquaio. no more freaking alibi! I think Floyd Jr said he dont want to fight Pacquaio because he dont want Arum to be involve, bs! He is freaking scared at Pacman..LOL
Mayweather when compared to Pacquaio.
Speed : Mayweather 5 – Pacquaio 10
Power : Mayweather 5 – Pacquaio 10
Versatility : Mayweather 6 – Pacquaio 10
Size : Mayweather
It seems Pacquiao is way better than Pacquaio every way.
Heart : Mayweather -1 – Pacquaio 10
Mayweather when compared to Pacquaio.
Speed : Mayweather 8 – Pacquaio 10
Power : Mayweather 7 – Pacquaio 10
Versatility : Mayweather 8 – Pacquaio 10
Size : Mayweather
Pacquiao is way better than Mayweather every way.
Heart : Mayweather -1 – Pacquaio 10
Pacman is too good that he makes it seem so easy, it makes his opponents think they’ve had it (and writers) … Well, David and Ricky should go on, and Oscar should unretire !
Let’s get it on, Pacman no. 1 pound-for-pound vs PBF no.1 proud-for-proud
Cole Williams must be Mayweater’s friend. Mayweather is a runner, his punches never really hurt hatton, except for that lucky body shot late in the fight. Mayweather is no way in Pacquiao’s class. He made his grand stand announcement right before the Pacaquiao-Hatton fight. After Pacquiao demolished Hatton so quickly, something he couldn’t do, I bet his eyeballs almost popped out. He now regrets it and is avoiding Pacquiao by making it very hard to arrive at an agreement. Hatton wobbled him a couple of times.Pacquiao would be hitting him faster and harder with both hands Mayweather is cared stiff. He first has to worry about Marquez, who can knock his ass ut. I bet he regrets his decision to unretire. He IS a runner, not a fighter.
Speed : Mayweather 8 – Pacquaio 9
Power : Mayweather 7 – Pacquaio 10
Versatility : Mayweather 8 – Pacquaio 9
Size : Mayweather
Heart : Mayweather ? – Pacquaio 10
Lets be real now, If PBF fought Pacman right now this very second Pacman will send him to the hospital. Forget about what happened last year, 2 years ago, 5 years ago. Right now this very second Pacman will hurt PBF. A world champion at his peak vs a retired boxer trying to regain his old form. Remember the greatest basketball player in history- Jordan after he retired and came back? Iverson and Penny Hardaway embarrassed Jordan and the Bulls. It took Jordan time to find his form. Unless PBF regains his old form, he is not on Pacquiao’s level right now. Freddie Roach and Bob Arum publicly called out PBF to fight Pacman after the Hatton fight. When did PBF ever get called out without him responding? Never!! I’m still waiting for his response. I’m not going to say he’s scared but I’d at least expect a response from PBF. So P4P right now, current present time, not 2 years ago- Pacman unless proven otherwise in the ring. (sidenote: I voted for PBF on dancing with the stars)
PACMAN is the LAKERS in the west and GAYWEATHER is the Cavaliers in the East without Lebron.
pacman destroy:
1.Baby face Assasin
2.el terible
3.dinamita
4.the dangerous
5. the golden boy
6.hitman
both of them are all tough legendary boxers of their weightclasses…
mayweather….
1. golden boy
2. hitman
only??????????
gayweather is a boring fighter why would you choose him as as p4p?
MAYWEATHER THE DUCKING BOXER WHY WONT HE FIGHT MARGARITO,COTTO,SHANE MOSLEY ..TO: GAYWEATHER PICK UR OWN SIZE ..
TO THOSE WHO CAN’T ACCEPT THE RING MAGAZINE RATINGS, You better look for another sport, not boxing. You are like a follower of a religion who don’t respect and obey your holy book. Ring Magazine is the bible of the boxing world and it says; At present, Manny is the best P4P. He is number one. Gayweather and your fanatic followers, if you want us to believe that you are still the no.1, you have to beat Manny. You have to fight him whether the prize is right or not. When an honor is at stake, money doesn’t counts. Gayweather, it seems you are evading Manny. You are making many excuses. LET’s GET IT ON!!
flotd= track abd field player
pacman= boxer
PBF fanatics are saying that he is better than MP because of his 39-0 record, why is that? PBF only fought 39 times and only fought little fighters while MP fought 54 times and has fought bigger and stronger fighters. Let’s see PBF fight 14 more times to see if he stays unbeaten and then compare him with MP.
“they both came first. In other words, Mayweather arguably beat better versions of both Hatton and De La Hoya than the ones that entered the ring against Pacquiao. ”
That, I don’t agree. Can you say that the young pacquiao that torrecampo knocked out is a better version of pacquiao that morales beat? or even a better version of the now pacquiao? I don’t think so. That’s a biased reasoning that has no sound basis at all.
i cant help myself but laughing…
poor mayweather..
You’re right tag. I think the author failed to see that Pacquiao entered the ring better than Mayweather when they fought the two. Or best to say, Pacman executes the best.
I heard no execuses from those Pacman destroyed. They admired him for being a great boxer. I just wonder why these couple of writers are the ones making execuses for them.
Currently Manny is Number One.
A fight with PBF will just cement his status.
sorry folks! the PBF Pacman fight will most likely remain a dream forever. PBF is the best! in avoiding Pacman that is! I can’t see this loudmouth fighting Pacman!He is so scared to lose and be exposed to the fans that he’s just a pretender! The Greatest Pretender!!!
i certainly disagree that mayweather beat the better version of the hitman bcoz as far as we can remember, he said he was far more conditioned than all of his previous fights and even encouraged his supporters to bet their mortgages…considering all the angles in and out of the ring..definitely pacman is NUMBER 1..
Here’s the main reason why PAC is NUMBER ONE COMPARED to “Ugly Boy Floyd”.
Quantity of Opponents: Ugly Boy=39, PAC=54
QUALITY of Opponents: PAC (do i need to enumerate)
Ugly Boy Floyd= ODLH, Hatton
SKILLS: Just when did knocking out your most dangerous opponents makes you less unskilled? Oh come on.
(Gayweather fans list of excuses = weight drained, too old, past his prime, Cherry picked, oh yeah and the new one PAC fought them not in their better versions.. what kind of a dumb observation is that?>
guys we all know how good Mayweather defensivly but NOT in the ring! he is so good at ducking opponent in their prime, the reason Money may retired beacause of the rising star that post a serious threat at his crown, like Margarito, Cintron, Mosley and Cotto, he only want to fight somone who have to increase or decrease weight so that he has the advantage in catch weight, unlike Pacman he is the one who adjust for his opponent not the other things around!
Pacquiao over Mayweather. But it won’t happen. Flame me all you want, but I don’t think Gayweather can even get through JMM. Then we will have Pac-JMM III – 50/50 on that one.
pacquiao destroyed:
1. the baby face assasin
2. el terible
3. dinamita
4. the dangerous
5. the golden boy
6. the hitman
all of them are tough legendary boxer in their wieght classes
mayweather:
1. the golden boy
2. the hitmnan
only?????
Hand Speed: Pacman 10, Mayweather 9
Mouth Speed: Mayweather 10, Pacman 5
Punching Power: Pacman 10, Mayweather 8
Stinking Power: Mayweather 10, Pacman 5
Quickness: Pacman 10, Mayweather 8
Cockiness: Mayweather 10, Pacman 5
To be honest people vote against Mayweather because they dont like him…. they dont really base it on skill (sad when you cant put personal feelings away and face facts)..Mayweather beat every fighter he’s faced and he’s faced some of the greats…He beat Hernandez into Submission for his 1st title then he faced Angel Manfredy and blew him out in 2rds he faced a fighter most champions ducked Emanuel Agustus he handed Deigo Corrales(RIP) his 1st lost by dropping him several times before the TKO..Corrales was bigger and the puncher he was KOing everybody up to then and being touted as P4P status..he went toe to toe with Castillio and because it was close rematched him..then look at his rooster many avoided Contenders he beat as well as Gatti,Sharmba Mitchell,Zab Judah,Baldomir,DeLa Hoya, and handing Ricky Hatton his 1st true defeat…(technically you know he really lost to Luis Callazo..) Now i have much respect for Pacquaio he’s a credit to the sport and a great Puncher/boxer and not the other way around Floyd is a Boxer/Puncher and 25 Ko’s out of 39 wins says he can hit…some get you out quick the others break you down but what matters most is the WIN…Floyd undefeated still Pacquaio 48-3-2-36 which is really 50 fights and 36 Ko’s Mayweather seems to have a higher KO ratio and success..and like ALI wont be appreciated until he’s old or fully retired
Me personally thinks he brings Color/flava and as we say in the hood Swagga to the sport…the media made him a bad guy…He’s very humble after every victory i know i watch…Keep doin you Floyd and i say Floyd by Ko in the late round..and you haters will find another reason to hate..well Pac was really too small or Mayweather ran the whole fight……
When Hatton fought PBF it was done at 147. Hatton and his people, during his come-back campaign, have been saying all along that Hatton’s true weight is at 140 and that he is unbeatable at that weight. Manny destroyed him at 140. Looked a lot better than PBF in doing it. De La Hoya, while training to fight Manny, had legendary trainers in his camp watching him everyday, telling cameras they had never seen him in better shape. Manny destroys him and all of a sudden he was a “weight-drained shell of himself”. Nobody gave Manny a shot, but he proves everyone wrong so excuses have to be made. Give me a break and give the man his credit.
Ok Bottomline is Paquiao would get the piss beat out of him and be knocked out by Floyd Mayweather, then all the world could revisit thier quiet engrained hatred and envy of the only supermen this world has ever known….BAM!!! Take that take that take that…..LMAO!!!! Yep i said it homie….Ahhh!!!!! LMAO!!!!!
PACMAN is my number one. I love to *$@$uck men now and not women .Second is still Jueteng. Third are my fellow govt cronies.Fourth is cockfighting. Fifth is Ilocos.
hey you idiots!!! are you still dreaming? pacman is better than :
– Barerra , Morales , Juan Marquez, David Diaz, De La Hoya , Hatton
so much praised to your fighters when the fight is not yet over, but when Pacman won, you always come up with an alibi…. grow up idiots!!!
Making no claims for expertise–after all, I picked Hatton, but I do think styles make fights and this fight may be a real loser for PPV, just as was the Hatton fight. Hatton seemed confused and not to have a plan, except to get hit as hard as he could be hit and to get knocked out as fast as he could be knowcked out. Manny has the go to him style and chase him style and Mayweather has the run and rool a shoulder style. He really is not all that fast any more, and maybe never was–at least compared to his opponents. Manny is very fast and hits harder even if he is a little smaller, but not that much smaller.
Determination also makes fights. If the stories about tax problems are behing Mayweather’s need to fight and risk injury, that is a very different matter than fighting to really, really wanting to win. Trainers also matter. I have a nagging feeling that Hatton would have done much better with someone other than a Mayweather training him. Roach has certainly emerged as one heck of a trainer, and Michael Moorer in the corner too, sort of a Teddy Atlas clone, makes it very interesting.
I give it to Manny on the basis of being just as fast or a tad faster now, certainly as strong or stronger now, certainly more determined to win (and maybe call it a career after winning), and having a much smarter corner that cares more about the fighter than the fight.
You bunch of stupid noobs!
Why is it so hard for you to understand that Pacman is the best?
Ill tell you once again, BECAUSE! Pacman has improved in every fight! Yes he lost to Morales, and because he is learning more, he beat morales twicce to prove that he is the best!
About Marquez, I’m gonna ask you a question, are you guys better than the judges? LOL!!!
Marquez is a counter puncher, in a close fight, aggresiveness is a plus.
Again Pacman learned, thats why in the second fight with Marquez, he did really beat Marquez!
So STFU and eat some hotdogs while watching Pacman KO Gayweather, Cotto, & Mosely.
Guys, I have to say that I am somewhat intrigued with this match up (Manny vs Money), let me throw my 2 cents in:
First, some are wondering why Floyd will fight Marquez (or Manny for that matter) when he literally said they are both two small for him. The reasoning is simple & he mentioned it on that same press conference: “Im here to claim what is rightfully mine” (his P4P status as number 1), as you all know, Manny is by far the number 1 P4P fighter today while Marquez is regarded as the number 2 P4P fighter so he wants a tune up with Marquez to get to Manny.
Second, statements of Pacman beating washed, over the hill & broken down fighters is very very wrong, Taking the DLH & Hatton fights as examples, he was able to KO De la Hoya with his lethal combination (Power & SPEED), was he over the hill at the time? Yes, but he was also washed up when Mayweather decisioned him in 2007. He KTFO Ricky in two at his natural weight (140lbs) something no one was able to do. Mayweather simply dominated both fighter & secured his victory, KO’d Hatton at 147 but we all saw that one coming as Hatton was never looked good at 47.
Do not be confused, I am a HUGE Mayweather fan & Im sticking with Floyd but Manny has won the hearts of many (including mine) on the way he fights & the reason for his fights. Manny is by far the most exciting boxer today in terms of action while Mayweather is the most exciting to watch as he simply dominates his foes with his amazing god-given skills. But we Mayweather fans (and Pacman fans also!) have to realize that this is a toss up; it’s going to be a war of will. Will Pacman be able to dominate Mayweather as he has DLH & Hitman, No way, Will Mayweather be able to put his defensive moves over Pacman & outbox Pacman? Most likely, but it all will depend on the game plan Freddy & Pacman are able to come up with.
So again, This is a very very intriguing match up pitting two of the greatest fighters of this generation in the same ring in the PPV that I would dub: “Pound 4 Pounf King – Manny vs Money.
Below is what I consider to be the match up
Manny Money
Reach 9 10
Height 8 10
Size 8 10
Heart 10 8
Speed 10 10
Power 9 7
Ring Generalship 9 10
Versatility 9 10
Skill 9 10
Final tally 81 85
Does my tally Matter in the ring, No, Manny & Floyd’s Will & Skill inside the ring will be the decisive factor.
My Prediction:
Being as objective as possible, I believe Mayweather will pull it off. Manny is so good on offense but does not have the defensive ability that Money has and will most likely get picked off with hard body shots from Money which will earn him the points.
Mayweather by Decision.
But first, Money must surpass Marquez on July 18th. He should be able to get thru.
Cole..you give mayweather a 10 on speed? speed on what?running away?
@noirnoticvibe
Hey man do you know how to calculate ratio? When did the 25/39 64% became higher than 37/49 75%(actual) or 36/50 as you have said? Pacman obviously has the upper hand in KO department…
“he beat every fighter he’s faced”? nahhhh I think “He have beaten every fighter he chose to face”…
But statistically your right his unbeaten in how many fight? 39? How old is he again? He sure knows how to duck an opponent…
He’s undefeated no question, he can avoid punch, he can run he can counter, he can wait we can sleep… If being number 1 is just being undefeated then Floyd is your guy… If you want a fighter and a thrilling fight then he’ll probably fall on number 10 x 999999999999
About “MOST WIN” how would 39 be a “MOST WIN” over 49… I don’t know how you compute things but obviously “more fight” is a “more risk” and more risk with more win is definitely tougher than less risk with no loss.
oh puhleeeeaze jorge…
@Jorge Ramirez
Very objective comment, I would say the same…. May Weather has the upper hand in MP vs PBF of course same goes to JMM vs PBF. MP and JMM is fighting a former P4P on his weight level may be a little less, but the point is why is he fighting at lower weight level? – For the P4P title? Huh? What if Ivan Calderon is the Number 1 P4P, May Weather will fight him to get the P4P title back? The fight between JMM and PBF simply states he’s not number 1 he’s too far from being number 1.
PBF can only prove that he’s number 1 (not by beating MP or JMM) by gaining respect that he wants from all of us. Very simple beat legit P4P-Welterweight, Mosley, Cotto, Marga, Clottey or if he wanna be great beat legit P4P-Jr. Middleweight…
Oh Man! pacman beats hatton at round 2
Mayweather at round 10, So Whats my point?
Speed and Power!!!
Manny PacMan Pacquiao Doesnt Have this qualities!
He has What?
LIGHTNING AND THUNDER!!!
BECAUSE HIS HUMAN!
THE ONLY FIGTHER TO BEAT MANNY IS MANNY HIMSELF!!!
TELL ME ALL YOU FOLKS WHO CAN BEAT MANNY!?
NO ARGUMENT! OKAY
PACMAN IS THE GEATEST OFF ALL TIME!
The writer failed to note that Hatton fought Money (not monkey please!) at 147 yet Money didn’t finish him off until 11th. Hatton best weight is 140 but Pacman the so called smaller guy dismantle him in just 2 rounds. Oscar seemed old and slow and drained with Pacman but actually he wasn’t. Pacman was just simply too fast and better fighter than Osky that’s why. I bet anybody, if Oscar fights again with the like of Mayorga, even Cotto or Margarit (not Mosley because he’s fast like Manny) he’s going to be look lot faster than any of these fighters because all them punch like molasses compare to Manny. Common! wake up and live in the world of reality.
Anyone who says PAC is faster is crazy!!!! PAC is fast but money is way faster. PAC has a single combination a 1…2. That’s it! No defence at all… He will get creamed!!!! I will be back here to celebrate when pbf knock PAC out. Yup I said it KO. Pacman is overrated. Could he have done that to a prime oscar delahoya.? Not in a million yrs!!!! Don’t forget, he LOST to morales….. And marquez made PAC look stupid TWICE!!!! And neither marquez or morales can be compared to pbf……. He will beat PAC and others will use the same formula to keep beating him!!!!! He’s a little Tyson, without the defence LOL peace
@edgarjimenez
So what if PBF is faster? has defense? or even beat PAC? It doesn’t prove anything… Balls man…Fighters gotta to have a lot of Balls. If only PBF has it this discussion is over, PBF vs Cotto, Mosley, Marga, Clottey or Williams, Forrest.
PAC vs [PBF, Cotto, Mosley] that is pure guts… Skills, physique, defense, speed even winning losing… it doesn’t matter as long as we see good fight fought by a great fighter… Thats balls man…
f.u. edgar jimenez are you blind or just a stupid gayweather nuthugger fool??? i bet both… you saying juana marquez made pacquiao look stupid??? whats more stupid than kissing the canvass 4 times (actually 5 if not for holdin on the ropes 2nd fight round 3)… spreading his legs to his daddy Pac after being Kd in their second bout?? haha remember? so thats stupid to you…
and bideaway, watch castillo vs gayweather 1, thats a loss to mayweather,, watch his face reaction before and after announcing the winner?? action speaks louder than words fool!!! even this gay knows that he loss, a gift decision indeed…fool!!!
Cole: Where are you getting these numbers from? Has Fleer released some kind of boxing-rpg-card game?
Get outta here!
It never ceases to amaze me at how many people jump on and off bandwagons as easily as they do. Your EYES should tell you that Floyd has all the advantages over Manny. Forget about common opponents and all that crap becuase it doesn’t make a difference. Manny is at an all time high but he’ll be fighting a guy who is faster than he is and has better punching form, balance and ring intelligence. Manny had 4 years to figure out how to beat Marquez and did worse in the 2nd fight than he did in the first. Floyd is going to destroy JMM. Just wait and see. JMM is coming down the other side of the mountain and his win against Diaz was his last great fight but even in that one he was getting the crap kicked out of himself until the Baby Bull passed out at the sight of his own blood. So, when Floyd beats him people will say JMM was old. It’s amazing that Manny gets so much kudos for beating guys Floyd already beat. When Floyd beats JMM people should take a long hard look at the reality of the situation and realize that Manny doesn’t have the ability to cope with PBF’ssuperior boxing skill. I wouldn’t be suprised if Manny lunges in with his straight left hand squaring himself up and get’s stopped by Floyd’s straight right hand. Floyd has the overall better pedigree in EVERY department so it won’t be a suprise to anyone who knows what the hell they’re talking about when he outclasses Manny. And, No!! The fight won’t be an all time classic.
floyd is a good fighter don’t get me wrong. he can turn it up or down whenever he wanted to. but with the undefeated record that only happened because he fought fighters that he can only beat. he does not fight fighters that he have a chance of loosing. he avoided a lot of elite fighter that wanted to fight him. cotto, margarito, sugar shane. let see if he even fight pac man or maybe he will avoid him like he did to others. alley, tyson, sugar ray are called the best even though they have losses in their record because the are not scared to fight anyone.
YOU HAVE TO EYES MR. EDGARJIMENEZ? OR JUST DONT KNOW HOW TO COUNT? WATCH AGAIN PACMAN FIGHT IF HE’S PUNCHING COMBINATION ONLY 1..2…COUNT COUNT COUNT…MR.GAYWEATHER IS FASTER THAN PACMAN? YES, I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT…YOU ARE 100% CORRECT.BUT NOT IN BOXING BUT IN TRACT N FIELD.GAYWEATHER U R NEXT…U CAN RUN BUT U CAN NEVER HIDE MANNY’S THUNDER PUNCHES.
@RTP
But Ivan Calderon does not have the crown now does he rtp? And even if he did, P4P fighters are normally tested in different weight classes to prove themselves so if he was P4P King, why the hell not? Remember, p4p assumes you are the best no matter what weight class you are able to compete in.
Floyd competed from 130lbs to 154lb -> P4P King until he retired.
Manny competed from 122lbs to 147lbs -> Reigning P4P king.
makes sense?
are you crazy? floyd is a cherry picker!! no risks involve!! pacquiao hands down!!!
Breaking news….Is it true that after Pacquiao received his purse of no less than USD12 Million….Mayweather senior made a marriage proposal to Aling dionisa Pacquiao!!!!!
I hope nothing goes wrong for pac/mayweather fight, I mean both side want big money.Well I hope pac/mayweather fight happen,when it does happen mr big mouth mayweather will shut his mouth after he got a good wiping well a lost I mean,I know pacman will win.
pacman will loose to mayweather,everyone is on pacman’s nuts,everyone was on tysons nuts to in the 80’s then he got KTFO by buster douglas then what happend after that,pacman faught those great mexican fighters after there best years,pacman does fight like a amatuer,his peole choose his fights cuz they know he will get torched by a good technical fighter,jmm beat him twice i think and so do alot of people,all the people who dont know about boxing are making to much out of pacman,building him up this much will ruin his career cuz when he does loose and he will if he keeps moving up in wieght,then i will hear alot of sad people
excellent post below, The reason PAcquioa has no fear is because he so close to God. When u are that spiritual and the light of God flow thru you, then you have no fear of anything in life, he’s at peace.
It allows him to train and perform at peak perfomance !
And the most naturally skilled, highly trained, disciplined, ferocious Fighter of all time ! What Delahoya and Ricky did not understand is how TUFF Pacquioa is ! He’s tuff !!
arnold says:
I wonder why there’s still people who dont believe pacquiao is the greatest boxer of all time. Those of you who dont believe me i dare you bet all your belongings when pacquiao fight mayweather, cotto, mosley or even margarito. ok? Trainer Mayweather Sr. I ask you can you still now say in front of media that pacquiao boxes like an amateur? pacquiao makes every opponent retire simply because 1st he has no fear, 2nd he has the heart, and ultimately he gives credit to God who is the only one who helped him and not boasts of his own God-given talent unlike the self-proclaied Ali and Mayweather jr. Why you critics have your excuses pop up after the fight such us Dela hoya drained, that he is old, etc, why not tell that excuses before the fight. it simply because you hypocrites dont accept that Pacquiao is the best!!!
Before the fight, ODLH said: “I have no problem going down at 147lbs. after the fight”. many excuses(dehydrated,blah,blah,blah etc,etc)……
Hatton before the fight: “I never felt this before, Im in my top condition”. Hey guys! dont forget the past. You keep on saying pacman beat the worn-out ODLH and Hatton. Even the fans are bunch of losers. Birds with the same feathers flocks together. bwahaha!!!
Pacquiao has faced naturally bigger opponents, While Mayweather never put himself in a delicado situation, he’s very choosy always considers his winnability, he is the best pound-for-pound mismatch maker, that’s why he chooses Mqrquez because there’s a little chance that he might got hurt. I won’t waste my time and 50 bucks for these two Most boring Pound-for-Pound Fighters of all time.
are you blind? manny is faster than floyd. and manny throws more punches than floyd. size is what floyd has against manny.
Me thinks that gayweather’s move to unretire himself will be his biggest blunder of all time! If ever he faces the pacman, he’s record will fall to 39-1, manny winning by UD if FM runs from him and manny winning by KO between 6-8 rounds if FM engages him. And what about floyd changing his nickname to triple M?! “Mainstream Money Mayweather” Gayweather completely lost it man! He Is a “F…n’” Joke!!! — and BTW, i completely agree with Kirk3451 & Eric Brun…you guys rock!
ha? floyd vs bolt! ahahahahaha
P4P Poll: Mayweather or Pacquiao? Who’s Number One?
This question is dumbfounded. Gayweather retired – and his seat was taken by Pacman. You cannot just take back what was yours when in the first place, it was Gayweather who left it. Fraud has to earn it first! Period.
But Fraud facing Pacman? Impossible. Gayweather is chickened by the Pacman!!! An unblemished record does not put you in the no. 1 spot. Or a win with JMM. Loser. Fraud’s battle with JMM is just for the second best. Sore losers! Hahaha
I’m biased. I’m Filipino and I want to see Pacquiao win. One thing I haven’t read yet in 100+ posts is that Pacquiao has Freddie Roach on his side. The man has a great eye for breaking down and finding weaknesses on each of Pac-Man’s opponents. He does his homework, watches fights, and knows how to analyze individuals. I don’t know much about Mayweather Jr.’s camp, but he’s in trouble if his corner isn’t half as good as Roach.
No matter what, when Pacquiao vs. Mayweather Jr. happens it’ll be good.
@ Jorge Ramirez
Wow man… You didn’t seem to get my argument… I mentioned Ivan Calderon for his weight… fighting @ 106, so if he (Calderon) is the current P4P say at 106 ~ 122… PBF would also challenge him (Calderon) for a fight, may be at a catch weight of 138 for Calderon to prove that he is the real deal… or for him to easy take away the P4P title by beating a 106 ~ 122 pound fighter… That is the reason why certain fighters are still undefeated…
He will fight JMM or MP to get the title (P4P), but MP got the title not by beating smaller fighter with titles, he got it by getting in the “Ring” with anybody who dares to challenge him.
PBF should fight legit welterweight and light middleweight fighters’ period. If he can do that then let’s see, if he is explosive and dominant, then we can decide if he is worthy to be number 1. For now this issue with MP and JMM, PBF as no balls…
@Stop the BS
Yahh I agree with you 100% –> “It never ceases to amaze me at how many people jump on and off bandwagons as easily as they do. Your EYES should tell you that Floyd has all the advantages over Manny.”
Cause:
PBF only fight if he has the advantage… So he choose JMM… Plain and simple… May be he’ll try it with MP… But that is questionable –> we’re having PBF vs JMM july 18 and no… no… no He will definitely not try it with other Welterweight and Light Middleweight… Plain and simple he has no advantage over there simply because he has no Balls…
As a boxing fan, i think PACMAN is far better than PBF because PACMAN is a very exiting boxer. He has proven himself by fighting the best boxers. He has beaten legendary boxers, like Barrera(twice), Marquez(once but i think twice), Morales (twice), Hatton, Dela Hoya, Diaz to name the best he has beaten. All of those fight are classic fights, All of them hit the canvas (with the exempotion of Dela Hoya because he surrendered). Manny want to fight Floyd next, thats how Manny is, he wants to fight the best there is. With respect to Mayweather since he has a 0 on his record, I think his a good boxer but I dont think we can say that his the best r better than MANNY, he needs to prove himself by fighting the best. If he thinks his the best then he needs to fight Pacquiao or the best fighters now lik Cotto, Margarito, Williams and so ON. Now his fighting JMM, JMM is a good boxer but his a boring boxer, his a coward, i dont know why some of this so called BOXING analyst call him a smart fighter, his a coward like FLOYD, he punch and run. It may be a good boxing but not an exiting one. Mayweather may call himself the best but I know deep in his heart he knows Manny is better than him. PROVE YOUR SELF FLOYD, DONT FIGHT A JUST GOOD BOXER! FIGHT THE BEST BOXER. YOU KNOW WHAT? YOUNG BOXING FAN LIKE ME WILL BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME, AND WHENEVER WE HEAR PEOPLE DEBATING WHOSE BETTER, YOU OR MANNY, WE WILL ATTEST THAT YOUR A LOSSER BECAUSE YOU ONLY FIGHT THE UNKNOWN GUYS!
everybody on the manny band wagon is a fool. when manny fought delahoya oscar was a drained fighter. floyd would have done the same thing if it was at 147 pounds.lets not forget floyed also came into that fight at 147 pounds to fight a guy who was almost a whole 15 pounds bigger. Morales had already been through wars by the time he fought manny and still managed to win one of those fights. shamba, diego, hatton, corly, where all in there prime when they lost to floyd and lets not forget that floyd started as a lightweight fighter as well and only started moving up before he fought gatti.
This is my expert opinion, on this match up.
Mayweather is 39-0 (will be 40-0) and has never had nobody “Really” make him fight. Nobody to make him step up and make him become the fighter that we would love.
Pacquiao is 54-3-2 and is more of a warrior/brawler and his head movement isn’t the that good. He’s been fighting shells of Oscar De la hoya and Ricky Hatton (not the same when floyd fault them). I will say that Pacquiao is double the fighter he was just two years ago.
All and all, i have an 11th round Knockout by Mayweather. Strictly because, Pacquiao’s to aggressive and overeager. Also Mayweather is the paramount fighter in this match up and all of BOXING.
At 30 years old, Pacquiao is peaking
physically ! He has a 30 yr old strength to go along with his blinding speed, and unmatched skill. He is the perfect boxing machine, and with his new level of power, look out !
He’s going to be dangerous, hes going to hurt people, including Mayweather jr !
Hes just too tough for Mayweather, period, yu’ll see.
Imagine boxing without Pacquiao. Mayweather cant create excitement as Pacquiao do.
Diaz, Dela Hoya and Hatton were taken to the hospital after their fight with Pacquiao. Mayweather will the fourth! With a Pacquiao left hook to the jaw in the third rouind!
even to marquez, i think sure, i’ll puy my money to JMM, PBF is no match to JMM
Ya! This is a wrong question to ask! It should be “P4P Poll: Marquez or Pacquiao? Who’s Number One?”! Mayweather will just run from Marquez just like what he did with his past opponents.
It has to be Manny for now, everyone seems to forget that mayweather could have fought some other great fighters back in the day but always fought fighters who just a little less talented and not at the same level; personally i would like to see him and Mosley, ps. Mayweather Sr. is an awful trainer, can someone please name me a fighter he’s trained and not his son that was Roger
i have read all the comments above and i understand that some people here still have the racist mentality, can’t accept the fact that a filipino small guy… is knocking out their favorites… maybe some of the fools here followed Hattons advice to bet their houses for him because he is a sure winner…..
WTF.. People are giving so much emphasis to Floyd’s talent (let’s give it to him the dude can box), sure he did beat good fighters but i’m not betting one of them will be in the Hall of Fame save from arguably ODLH.. He’ll be in the league of Whitaker, Wright and Hearns and other honorable mentions but never side by side with Robinson Armstrong, Hagler Leaonard, Duran and Ali.. Yes he do have an immaculate record but most of the all time greats suffered losses because they took the risks to prove themselves these guys have guts and courage.. money’s got talent but he is one big mouthed pussy handpicking his opponents so he could protect his zero (although i believe he lost to castillo).. I wonder why the fight is being billed as Number One/Numero Uno.. who are they kidding? these mother efers are just trying to insult the the true P4P king.. Well Pacquiao does not need them anymore they are not in his league because at the end of the Pac’s career he’ll be an all time great.. worthy to be with the guys who brought boxing to new heights..
One comment for all the BIG MOUTHS against the PAC – keep it the way. I want you to put all your words in your A$$ once the PAC is done with the a$$-whoopin’.
You’ll be in the same program with BHopkins and Floyd Sr – Arrogant Big Mouths which now both Mouth were SHUT after the fight. And bunch losers as always full of EXCUSES after the hatton went out cold in the canvass – WOW scary moment I thought he won’t woke up. But the PAC already know that he’ll be ok because he already prayed for the fight that his opponent will just woke up right after the cold left! Balut power baby – that’s one of the pinoy ingredient. I bet Floyd Jr scared of BALUT@!
READ ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS. BEEN A BOXING FAN 35 YEARS. I AGREE MANNY IS THE REAL DEAL, BEST ON THE PLANET AT THIS TIME! THAT SAID ILL TAKE MAYWEATHER BY DECISION. THINK LEONARD HAGLER, LEONARD DURAN 2, WHITAKER CHAVEZ, STYLES MAKE FIGHTS!
To Cole: LOL
Pacquiao hits much harder than Floyd and has faster hands too. Floyd had faster feet and more flexible head movement an thats it.
Most of yall r trippin Mayweather is UNDEFEATED! Pac not. Floyd a masterful technician. Please stop commenting on only Floyds recent fight. Floyd been punishin cats for years. Boxing and slugging. yes sluggin. Check out youtube. Dethroned how many champs? In their PRIME? Oh Pac man bring ur AAA game.
for me its PACMAN the best P4P figher in the world.. Mayweather is afraid of PACMAN even PACMAN will offer 50/50 for the fight… Mayweather will just make an excuse by refusing 50/50 share.. Pacman will even offer Floyd Jr. Floyd Sr. Roger Mayweather vs. Pacman.. Mark my word.. He is afraid of PACMAN..
I’m a huge proponent of the “sweet science” for nearly four decades going. My all-time favorite fighter: Marvelous Marvin Hagler. (Just wanted to give a shout out) !!!Anyway….. I’ve been a “silent” fan of Floyd for a number of years but have always wanted to see him get KO’d just once. Not a TKO but soundly beaten and dropped like fallen timber — down for the count. I’ve always felt that a good thrashing is a humbling experience for the mouthiest and most arrogant in the sport. I’ve watched most of Mayweather’s fights from roughly 1997 on and no question – he does possess phenomenal skills and can hurt opponents with barrages and classic combinations. He’s quick, a great counterpuncher a good closer and strong finisher. His defense is only somewhat notable and he confuses his rival with it but by the same token, that’s what I truly dislike about him. He lures the other guy in and leans on the ropes picking shots and it’s obvious that he does not like to get hit. He capitalizes on opponents who lurch over him that are off balance and vulnerable. Because of this unique style of run and cover defense, his attackers get easily frustrated. He’s not been chin tested by some of the best he’s faced and I believe that he can be hurt by the right guy who has the patience to stalk and catch him. I expect him to “run and cover” against Pacquiao too, but Manny is a savvy guy and will use his clever southpaw style, power and ring smarts along with the recent activity to his benefit should this fight get made. I’ve been watching Manny for just as long as Floyd and do recall when he got KO’d early by that Thai boxer, so Manny does have a suspect chin. But he also has a near perfect resume of improvement and many outstanding fights (minus the Morales fight he lost by decision) which follow. This dream fight will draw a huge constituent of fight fans on both sides with gigantic purses for both guys. Freddy Roach may be suffering the debilitating effects of MS but it is clear that he knows how to make Manny respond to his training and I’m sure Freddy will carefully and accurately disect tapes of Floyd to expose those oh so few weaknesses and vulnerablities that are not visible to the average fighter. If both guys bring their A game, could be a great one. My prediction: the classy and popular Manny Pacquiao wins by majority decision. My dream prediction: Manny by brutal KO in the 9th, but I’ll hold on to that one for the rematch.
Pacquiao NO DEFENSE??? That’s how fast the fight goes and how overwhelming his offense is that one couldn’t see his defense. MANNY’S LETHAL OFFENSE IS HIS ROCK SOLID DEFENSE.
So WHAT IS A GOOD EXCUSE if Floyd Jr can’t pass Marquez?
PLEASE TELL ME I WANT TO HEAR THAT JOKE!
PACMAN and BALUT great mix.
Just to chime in from my previous post above. Many of you state that Mayweather is “bigger” than Pacquaio. Perhaps in terms of the weight Floyd fought at for 8-9 years but officially, Floyd is 5′8″ while Manny 5′6 1/2″. Only major difference in the two is arm length where Floyd boasts a 72″ reach and Manny just 67″. Didn’t make much of difference when Manny fought the taller, rangier DeLaHoya. Manny proved he can “lunge and punch” with great accuracy and power. Yes, Oscar is washed-up but he caught and stunned Floyd early in their fight yet wasn’t able to finish or even remotely try to close the deal. Floyd has shown that he is capable of getting caught early on but gets better as the fight progresses. So does Pacman. Manny will have great success if he goes right after Floyd early on. I see it going the distance in favor of Pacquiao unless he gets careless where Floyd actually puts him to sleep. Manny’s style and southpaw stance aren’t enough for him to win though. He needs to incorporate more in his defense by tucking his chin close to the collarbone and keeping his hands up, especially as he’s retreating. I choose Manny all the way in this one and a KO would be the icing on the cake but I still see it going the distance with Manny winning the decision. Quietly lurking in the shadows is Sugar Shane Mosely. Sugar is THE guy who can absolutely destroy Floyd and if most people don’t think so, look what he did to Margarito with packed gloves and all. Shane’s shining moments and top form took place when he fought at 135-145. He has all the skills and is a hybrid of these two guys combined stylistically. Shane doesn’t run and hide and he’s all business in the ring and incidentally, he’s never been KO’d or even hit the canvas in his pro career and he’s fought some pretty heavy handed dudes. Sign Mosely and Mayweather BEFORE Pacquiao/Mayweather in less than a year before Shane gets too old (37) and I guarantee this will be a phenomenal bout and easy KO for Shane. Then six months later let Manny send Pretty Boy into permanent retirement ending his so-called illustrious career.
MP has been P4P for more or less a year, and still, About’s P4P number one is Floyd even though he was supposedly retired during that time. About is pro-Mayweather, right?
Anyway, if Pacquiao wins over Mayweather, the reason will be bcause it was not a BETTER VERSION of Mayweather.
To prove that Pacman is the kilogram-for-kilogram champion he should fight and win over the Klitschko brothers. That could satisfy all those who cannot accept the truth.
It is billed Number One/Numero Uno because the winner will be the Numero Uno challenger to the Pacman.
Numero Uno, of course, is JMM.
And JuanMa will have the honor to be the first one to give Li’l Floyd a loss in his record… not Manny.
Marquez versus Pacquiao, Part 3 !!!!
I see two knockouts comming, first Marquez, then Pacquiao. You people are dilusional. Pacquiao is fighting a Superman equivilant. He does not possess the genetic material necessary to defeat Mayweather. Only another Mayweather can do that….lol
Ok Ok I want everyone of you guys to come back to this page and publicly BOW DOWN when Mayweather beats up Paquiao. I want everyone of you to cower about, tuck your tails between your legs and apologize. Then admit whose your Daddy show bitter remorse for even dreaming that Manny or anyone like him could be on Mayweathers level. The only way it’ll ever happen is if you can some how inprison all the Mayweathers, then maybe you can actually be something special. But until then, I’ll be teasing you to be sure…..lol
of course, MANNY is better than GAyweather! NO DOUBT! floyd is boring, floyd is afraid of PACMAN.
@Lito
Mayweather beating Pacquiao it’s a BIG possibility… Why?
He has A BIG advantage; reach, height, weight he’s a boxer from welterweight/light-middleweight for crying out loud…
Now Floyd takes on Marquez, Pacquiao next…
What would he get, easy money, easy opponent, P4P title… No loss in his elusive record…
He’s really is the superman equivalent in gay boxing!
They said Floyd was able to beat fighters at their prime and Pacquiao beats the washed-up version? on what basis?
How would you know?
Age? – Floyd 32 so He’s already a washed-up boxer if Pacquiao beat him. If he win over Marquez, then JMM is a washed-up athlete…
Loss? – When a boxer experience a loss, then he is already a washed-up athlete… MP and JMM are surely is a washed-up athlete that beating all big names out there.
Anyway believe what you want to believe… But great fighters tends to move up not down… period…
Pacman is simply the best. He is an exciting fighter and there’s no dull fight whenever he’s in the ring.
Gayweather is only a thrash talker. Pacman will demolish all these talkative boxers.
He is not only the P4P king but the greatest boxer of the decade according to the Ring Magazine and the greatest fighter that ever lived according to Arum. How about Gayweather?
Hey Lito. I want you to put your mouth in your A$$ when that fight happens with PACMAN, the same faith with hatton which was out cold in the canvass for 15 minutes. That is of course, if he can pass Marquez. The reason why he can’t wait for PACMAN because he’s scared, that’s right he did chicken out why because he wants to measure up first how he can run around the ring and use the new DANCING WITH THE STARS technique which all he does throughout his career and maybe do some running when he face the PACMAN not to include by the way he ducks to Shane Mosley and a lot more competent folks when was asked for a fight – PATHETIC!
Lito – you seems Smart like Floyd Sr – is your mouth bigger than his or just your A$$ blows a lot of air into your mouth!
Shut your hole!
Manny Pacquiao is the real deal and undoubtedly the best thing that ever happened to boxing. Unlike all the other greats out there who combine showmanship with skill, the PACMAN is all skill. No need for showmanship. He lets his fists do the talking and boy, do they talk loud!
Everything about the man is TRUE. He is known for his killer fists, his stout heart, dogged determination, blazing fast hand and foot speed and most of all, his unfathomable humility and genuine love for the game. I’ve never seen a humbler fighter!
You won’t hear any bad-mouthing from this man. Not today nor tomorrow. My wish for the Pacman is that he stays true to his heart. Never to be swayed by the people who surround him who are only after his fame and fortune. I wish he exits the game gracefully when his time comes so his star won’t be tarnished. Lastly, I hope the money doesn’t get to his head.
To the Pacman, keep fighting proud! Every Filipino is behind you!
Age:
Manny-30
Floyd-32
No. of fights:
Manny- 49
Floyd- 39
No. of Knock-outs:
Manny- 37
Floyd- 25
Go, figure why Manny is better than Floyd.
so much for the trash talk of floyd jr., manny pacquiao is the no. 1 p4p. Not only is pacquiao blessed with a strong punching power, but with speed and character. he really is a true warrior because he’s determine to fight the real fight unlike mayweather jr. who seems to master his defense through “running”. yes floyd jr. is quick but i think he found his match in pacman who always go forward and ready to fight.
I think its Mayweather, he got the fastest mouth err what the question?
Now people has to stop talking about close fights if that boxer dont knock out his opponent so they leave it to the judge that is why they are out there in 3 different side of the ring… my thing here is dont talk about none sense like Mayweather saying the Pacman should of lost 2 if that is the case he would have alot of in his lost columm specially with the 2 fights against Castillo first fight he lost that one without a doubt the second was a close fight could of gone either way talking about the past and making up excuses dont make you the best p4p fighting a true champion and not hiding from a split or anything else he can come up with as an excuse just tells me he dont deserve to be #1 even 2 or 3 not even in the top 10 he like to figth slower or smaller fighter and all that talk that the pacman is picking his opponent is what Mayweather team has been doing ever since he became the p4p #1 before he retired
Guys
pacman will dropped mayweather 6round.No body can’t stop Pacman i don’t really care what you guys think.Mayweather Jr got big mouth talks alot, he scared with manny that’s the fact.Mayweather he should sale some eggroll across the street from his home town when he loss the fight.
“In other words, Mayweather arguably beat better versions of both Hatton and De La Hoya than the ones that entered the ring against Pacquiao”
I think you can make that argument for DLH but not for hatton. hatton was out of his element when he faced Mayweather. They fought at Welterweight. Against Pac, Hatton was fighting at his beloved Junior welterweight. He had never lost at that weight. Pac had never fought at that weight. Plus Hatton was still young.
Mayweather v pacman
Speed: M – 9 P – 10
Power: M – 8 P – 9.5
Accruacy: M – 9 P – 9
Work rate: M- 7 P – 10
Chin: M – ?? P – 9
Heart: M – ?? P – 10
I just think Pac is a force of nature and that nobody can stop him now
We all know that no one beats Manny Pacquiao except his wife…Jinkee Pacquiao…Only Jinkee can beat Manny…Pacquiao won’t last 3 rounds against Jinkee…that’s for sure…hahahaha
The only problem Manny will encounter is catching Mayweather. You KNOW Mayweather is gonna be on his bike to avoid being caught.
As much as Mayweather shoots his mouth off, I think he knows DEEP down he’s in trouble if he decides to trade. He’s not stupid. He’ll try to outbox Manny. In fact, I won’t be surpised if you see the crowd booing Mayweather early on for running/clinching and throwing piddypaddy punches.
If they just went toe-to-toe, Manny would drop him like a pile of bricks. Mayweahter knows this. Trust me – Mayweather will try to make this a track meet.
I just hope Manny catches him and beats the snot out of him ….
My simple comments are just like this;Mayweather is not an exciting boxer as Manny.He fought only a selected fighters. He is boring.He dont have a charisma & followers like Manny.Manny fought so many legends and was knocked-out. Manny wiill fight anybody as decided by Arum.If Mayweather wants then we can decide who is the best fighter that ever lived.
Forget about Mayweather being undefeated or Pacman having lost three fights. That’s not how you judge a boxer’s greatness. It’s the quality of the opponents you were willing to fight. Manny Pacquiao fought every top worthy contenders and/or champions in each of the weight divisions he strapped his gloves on. He fought the top three mexican champions of this generations eight times. He fought Diaz, Delahoya and Hatton with a world title on the line. He’s even demanding Cotto to stake his title for their upcoming fight. Mayweather did fight good/great fighters but who didn’t he fight for whatever reason he may have? Margarito… Cotto … Moseley… ??? Tell me who Pacman has dogged in his career??? Now Mayweather is dragging his feet in fighting Pacman and still has the audacity to call himself Pound for Pound best fighter in he world?
Gayweather is nothing but a “Hit and Run” opponent… Actually he’s been a big fan of Pacquiao, even on his fights, he used manny’s name on it….
Floyd “manny” Mayweather!!!!
All i have to say is if you watched the cotto-pacquiao fight last night it gives you the answer
Speed: Mayweather=7 Pacquiao=10
Power: Mayweather=7 Pacquiao=9
Size: Mayweather
Heart: Mayweather=? Pacquiao=10
Courage: Mayweather=0 Pacquiao=10
Mayweather fans I pity you… Pacquiao’s too fast Mayweather. Mayweather won’t even see his punches, just like Cotto did…
hatton KO’d at 2nd rnd, DelaHoya TKO and recently badly beaten cotto. next is gayweather hitting the canvas like everyone else. GO MANNY best pound for pound king
Mayweather speaks up after the Pacquiao vs Cotto fight.
VIDEO –> http://pacquiaovscottofightnight.blogspot.com/2009/11/mayweather-speaks-up-against-pacquiao.html
Ah. Well another champion bites the dust. Of course, as usual, Cotto will be branded as a worn out soldier. So PDF win against Pacman. I don’t really care. But do like to see PBF face damaged. I can almost see the headline, “PRETTY BOY FLOYD NOT PRETTY AFTER ALL”. But then again… do you think PBF will go down Pacman’s weight? Chances are he won’t… he’ll just pay the penalty. Oh and has PBF helped his countryman? I don’t think so. Still both are great fighters. Its just that… Pacman doesn’t choose who he fights… PBF does. In my book, that makes a lot of differences.
I guess Cotto will be branded as the NEXT washed up fighter. Kudos for pacman for even at least fighthing Cotto a washed up fighter who had the nerves of a true warrior who fought hard and kept his pride as a fighter without giving up even though running at the late rounds since he was badly beaten and “washed up” as gayweather fans would call it.
Well for me Pacman at least traded hands with Cotto as for Pretty boy never did and ever attempted to even in Cottos “washed up” state.
Gayweather fans here we go…
Mayweather is such an arrogant talker. I think he feels intimidated.. but maybe not because he ONLY FIGHTS WITH PEOPLE SMALLER THAN HIM! Pacquiao will surely surprise him
Can’t wait to see the fight. Go MANNY!! 
Manny Pacquiao is Number One. He deserves to be called Fighter of the Decade.
Check this out: HBO Boxing Fighter of the Decade
Both boxers are great, and they both can win this fight, but the nite of the event only 1 can prove to be the best. I believe manny has quicker hands, n Floyd has quicker feet. I would think they would also have the same amount of power. Floyd is bigger, and can fight smaller opponents, and he has proven that a lil 2 much. N 4 Manny he just proved he can beat and take a real welterweight punch, so most would love 2 see floyd go down. I would 2, but it aint gonna b easy. Once Manny gets da rite hit n stunz Floyd, he would have 2 continue 2 punch, and move out the way if needed. I say dat cuz Floyd is known 2 hold u tight if he’s hurt. And dat only gives Floyd breathing room. I believe dis fite will go da distance. Manny can go da full 12, and can play hard 2 beat. N Floyd will fight 4 points. So dis could be a surprise 2 every fan!
Those mayweather fans don’t know what they are talking about. How will the filipino man prove to all of you that he is the best, and he has beaten the rest of the best? Mayweather will stop Pacquiao? C’mon, that’s really bs . . .
I believe Mayweather did a great job at picking his opponents. I believe he picked Manny this time like he did the rest. I believe Manny also picked some of the same opponents Mayweather did. Hatton and Dela Hoya to metion a couple.